[Ferich]

[quote:fe11a]Cho left a long and vitriolic note in his dorm room, law enforcement sources told ABC News. It contains an explanation of his actions and states, "You caused me to do this," ABC News reported.

It also railed against "rich kids," "debauchery" and "deceitful charlatans" on campus, according to the Chicago Tribune.[/quote:fe11a]

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/17/vtech. ... index.html

[Chronic Diarrhea]

The bad thing about this is it's going to give other demented fucks around the nation an idea. They see how "successful" this guy was in killing 30 + people. Odds tell you that in any large university, there's probably 20-30 demented people like that guy, and about 5 of them are very close to pulling off something drastic. Events like these could push some of those over the edge.

It's nothing to alter your life over. I'm not going to wear a Kevlar vest as I walk across my campus, but it's something to be aware of.

[TGB!]

Well, it really isn't that difficult pull something like this off. . .UNI with metal detectors. . .not likely.

[ninty]

government can't protect you. responsibility of the individual more or less. arm yourselves.

[Coleman]

Originally Posted by ninty

government can't protect you. responsibility of the individual more or less. arm yourselves.

agreed. It'd be the worst idea ever if people start thinking about putting metal detectors here and metal detectors there. It's just not right.

[Tripper]

Im glad I live in a country isolated from guns, I understand that the american black market has illegal guns flowing into the country and If I lived in the states, I probably would want to get a CCW licensce simply because of the amount of massacres that have happened....Oh and whoever said that they guarantee the killer acquired illegal guns is wrong - They found the $500 receipt for one of them.

P.S - This is a time to reflect - You should all read up on SPREE KILLERS, some interesting tragedies - One of the best reads on the interweb:

[url:f6d82]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spree_killer[/url:f6d82]

[url:f6d82]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_massacres[/url:f6d82]
[url:f6d82]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_postal_killings[/url:f6d82]

[Arkan]

Ok, i didn't respond to these remarks right away because this is a very touchy topic, especially after a horrific event such as this.

1st of all, guns in America is a fact....a fact that isn't going to go away. I realize it's a problem but, instead of "banning them" (which is calling on the impossible), there has to be another way. Even though i consider myself "Pro-Gun", i would propose this:

1. Federal registration system for all guns. There should only be one registration process for all 50 states to follow. We don't need different methods for each state as it is now.

2. All 50 states should be CCW with the same laws and rules in place.

3. Requirements should be: 21 or older (except if in the Military), no Felony record, no drug abuse, mental issues, and must pass a background check. Fingerprints should also be taken. Person should be an American citizen. If naturalized or a resident alien, then a minimum of 10 years living here.

4. All gun makers must submit to the federal govt a "ballistic print" for every gun they manufacture and sell.

5. All persons applying for a CCW must pass a federally sanctioned safety class. Class should cost $50 and the initial CCW should cost $100. After a period of 5 years, all CCW holders are required to renew their license with another "safety brief" course at the price of $25.

6. All CCW holders are encouraged to safe guard their weapons from harm. They should be held responsible for someone getting their guns and doing harm (...meaning, in the event a gun is stolen, it MUST be reported immediately so if it's used in a crime, you're not responsible) If the theft goes unreported, then you'll have some legal issues on your hands.

7. MOST IMPORTANT: Commit a felony with a gun, you pay dearly. Make the punishment harsh for people who use guns while in the commission of a crime. No "plea-bargaining" and maximun sentences without time off for good behavior.

These are some of the things i'm willing to do in order to secure my "right" to have a gun and at the same time, allowing the "anti's" some control. It's a give and take thing here. No one wants to see innocent people slaughtered yet we SHOULD be allowed to defend ourselves if the need ever arises.

This massacre was made possible by the "anti's" for not allowing law abiding citizens from protecting themselves. This University was supposed to be a "Safe Zone" without guns. If you want to make a "gun free safe zone", then you better have in place instruments and check methods that guarantee no one is armed. Ever wonder why a madman doesn't attack at a gun show or a police station?.......people there will shoot back !!!

[Jotun]

ughhh, this situation is just so terrible...so depressing, and you cant escape it here. everyone is wearing vtech clothes and it just constantly reminds you of it. a lot of people here lost their friends in it....

[Arkan]

A previous victim speaks out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKG6Nch7iBA

[Pyro]

Originally Posted by Stammer

He wasn't American, he was a South Korean national.

Guess he was pissed off the states thought that Iraq and Iran is a more pressing issue than the threat of North Korea

either way kids cracked.

[anti]

i wrote up a huge debate but i realized, you knwo what, i live in canada (pyro?). my paranoia isn't to the point where i feel i need to carry a gun to class. i don't know really, it's tragedy yes, but in my opinion everyone walking around with a gun in their procket is just as much a tragedy.

[anti]

Originally Posted by Pyro

Guess he was pissed off the states thought that Iraq and Iran is a more pressing issue than the threat of North Korea

either way kids cracked.

it's always the states eh shawn? there's no way his motives could be anything other than politics right? i'm starting to think your ignorance is just a big joke you play on all of this, because you can't be serious in the satements you make.

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[Pyro]

Originally Posted by anti

i wrote up a huge debate but i realized, you knwo what, i live in canada (pyro?). my paranoia isn't to the point where i feel i need to carry a gun to class. i don't know really, it's tragedy yes, but in my opinion everyone walking around with a gun in their procket is just as much a tragedy.

Well the best feeling I have is thinking I can walk whereever I want too...and never be shot...I may be hassled but never even to the point of a fight...i don't know it';s a good feeling...though some people think they can't and i call em crazy...

[Pyro]

Originally Posted by anti

it's always the states eh shawn? there's no way his motives could be anything other than politics right? i'm starting to think your ignorance is just a big joke you play on all of this, because you can't be serious in the satements you make.

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I just go by the facts.

[geRV]

Pyro enough of the anti america shit where you just make retarded arguments to further your post count. Theres 33 families that are missing members because of the actions of one sad little cocksucker.

Any further retarded posts get deleted.