[Proteus]

The kid must be beating off right now to his 4 pages of posts.

[geRV]

Originally Posted by Proteus

The kid must be beating off right now to his 4 pages of posts.

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[Jotun]

i think its bullshit. he asked legitimate questions, and they need to be answered, whether its on the news or in a small lecture hall. im so sick of people being like "well it wasnt appropriate" or "he was being rude" or something. he wants change, and he's doing what he feels necessary. i respect him for that. i personally dont think this shithole of a country wont change unless people start dying on a massive scale. its a shame its gotten to that point.

[Proteus]

Originally Posted by Jotun

i think its bullshit. he asked legitimate questions, and they need to be answered, whether its on the news or in a small lecture hall. im so sick of people being like "well it wasnt appropriate" or "he was being rude" or something. he wants change, and he's doing what he feels necessary. i respect him for that. i personally dont think this shithole of a country wont change unless people start dying on a massive scale. its a shame its gotten to that point.

Not really a shame... Just another good whack at Eutopia.

[jujumantb]

Originally Posted by Jotun

i think its bullshit. he asked legitimate questions, and they need to be answered, whether its on the news or in a small lecture hall. im so sick of people being like "well it wasnt appropriate" or "he was being rude" or something. he wants change, and he's doing what he feels necessary. i respect him for that. i personally dont think this shithole of a country wont change unless people start dying on a massive scale. its a shame its gotten to that point.

he clearly was out to make a scene and get camera time, by making the scene he did is exactly what he wanted... if kerry would have answered his questions and that was it, then we wouldnt be talking about it. its a democracy, if you want change, get involved in supporting a candidate and get the word out, get people voting.

[imported_Fluffy_Bunny]

I woulda kicked him square in teh balls

[Tripper]

Originally Posted by c312

But there is a point where their job of apprehension can require force, hell, no one wants to go to jail, that's why the cops have to use force. Tasers are not a form of punishment, and neither are guns, they are just necessary tools for policemen to do their jobs.

Im talking about and to the people that are backing the police just because of how the guy looked on the video, just because he seemed like an annoying person. Im not saying these cops were trying to outright lay out punishment on this guy. Im insinuating that they didnt handle the situation as best they could, as bold as that is for a non-cop to say - I just think those tasers arent as peaceful as people like TGB attempt to make them seem.

TGB - Seven deaths which are directly linked to the taser's bite is nothing to be proud of. Especially when you consider that a huge chunk of the 150 people (which is actually something like 240 people) that died, passed on due to health conditions that the taser exacerbated. This means that while the taser didnt directly cause the death, it played a secondary role, which in my opinion is enough justification to label it a potentially fatal weapon that shouldnt replace old school physical police work - At LEAST until further conclusions can be made on its safety.

That's what makes it fucking debateable. Tosser.

Originally Posted by TGB

Subduing an invidual isn't punishment. People arguing that he "deserves" it, aren't speaking from the POV of the campus police.

Im not saying they are. calmdown:

Originally Posted by TGB

Yea, they sure are trigger happy, considering the number of warnings he was given to relax and leave quietly. Oh most definitely, they just couldnt wait to get off a couple of shots to satisfy some male ego. Too bad the kid had NO CHOICE but to resist, its not as if not resisting wouldn't have gotten him tasered since OBVIOUSLY they were gonna taze him regardless.

Who said anything about satisfying male egos? You're putting words in my mouth here....Is that so your point sounds more dramatic? Cool, man.

I just think that the taser in its current form shouldn't replace simple physical police procedure.

Originally Posted by TGB

Oh yea - thats EXACTLY it. Gimme a fucking break. If you HONESTLY think there is NO DIFFERENCE between being electrocuted, and being given a jolt of electricity to incapacitate your motor functions, then you really have zero scale here and to you being hit with a joy-buzzer is the same and grounds for marching on Washington.

Hmmm, let me think about this. I thought being electrocuted was the fucking DEFINITION of being given a jolt of electricity............Wait.....a........sec...... .So, to you, these are two different things?

HEY EVERYBODY - APPARENTLY, IF YOU THINK ELECTRICITY IS USED TO ELECTROCUTE, THEN YOU HAVE ZERO SCALE - TIME TO GO MARCH ON WASHINGTON!

TGB FOR PRESIDENT! LETS CLEAN THIS PLACE UP.

[c312]

Originally Posted by Tripper

Im talking about and to the people that are backing the police just because of how the guy looked on the video, just because he seemed like an annoying person. Im not saying these cops were trying to outright lay out punishment on this guy. Im insinuating that they didnt handle the situation as best they could, as bold as that is for a non-cop to say - I just think those tasers arent as peaceful as people like TGB attempt to make them seem.

So you still believe that the officers should have continued wrestling the kid until he submitted? Why should the officers risk getting injured and risk injuring the kid AND allow the disturbance to go on longer? Imagine if they hadn't tased him and he kept resisting and ended up breaking a cops nose with a flailing fist. Then he could be charged with assault on a police officer and that would be way worse than what he was charged with. The point is that none of those involved could know what was gonna happen. The taser provided a quick, safe end to the situation, and gave the officers control--that is what it is designed to do.

That's how I see it.


BTW, electrocution is technically death by electricity but I think nits are being picked in this thread.

[Colonel]

Meh. The kid got what he deserved. The only thing the police did wrong was that they didn't beat the crap outa him with Billy clubs. I'm in favor of the zero tolerance rule. If you don't do what the officer tells you, he has every right to beat you until you comply.

[TGB!]

[quote:bee61]
Im talking about and to the people that are backing the police just because of how the guy looked on the video, just because he seemed like an annoying person.[/quote:bee61]

Actually there are people backing the police because MEYER was given several warning to cooperate - why this isn't getting through is beyond me.

[quote:bee61]I just think those tasers arent as peaceful as people like TGB attempt to make them seem. [/quote:bee61]

Oh yea - I give my girl a shot with the taser every now and again because I think its so cute and cuddly - oh wait. No it's not. It's meant to pull compliance out of unruly subject. And well whaddya know - MEYER was unruly and REFUSED to cooperate when he was ORDERED out of the lecture hall - not by cops, but by event organizers. Again - we must be watching different tapes, because on yours MEYER is just being a silly-billy goofball.

[quote:bee61]TGB - Seven deaths which are directly linked to the taser's bite is nothing to be proud of. Especially when you consider that a huge chunk of the 150 people (which is actually something like 240 people) that died, passed on due to health conditions that the taser exacerbated. This means that while the taser didnt directly cause the death, it played a secondary role, which in my opinion is enough justification to label it a potentially fatal weapon that shouldnt replace old school physical police work - At LEAST until further conclusions can be made on its safety.[/quote:bee61]

Which is based on what exactly - Amenesty's unbiased fact finding? Yea right. And theres nothing in that report that says the taser elevated existing conditions. NOTHING. You're doing exactly what AI wants you to do - jump to conclusions. Easy to do when you've already made your mind up about something.

[quote:bee61]Who said anything about satisfying male egos?[/quote:bee61]

I did. Read the fucking reply. But unwad your panties first.

[quote:bee61]Hmmm, let me think about this. I thought being electrocuted was the fucking DEFINITION of being given a jolt of electricity............Wait.....a........sec...... .So, to you, these are two different things? [/quote:bee61]

Are you being daft on purpose or is this some new Tripper thing? Again - if you see no difference in language between being zapped with a taser and being FUCKING ELECTROCUTED (one zapping muscle function, and the other BURNING FUCKING TISSUE) - then w/e brotha. Conversation over. Go smoke the peace pipe and w/e other hip aware thing the kids do these days.

[RaNgeR]

you are a fucking nuter tgb; I hope you know this.

[Eight Ace]

i for one am all for tazers, they were great to collect n' swap, I dont know what the fuck this
anti Kerry guy is on about quite frankly....or am i getting mixed up with Tazos..?, anyway..yeah..

[Tripper]

Originally Posted by RaNgeR

you are a fucking nuter tgb; I hope you know this.

He's not a nutter so much as he just doesn't allow people to have their own opinions. He just cant make his points without being an obnoxious, rude, and know-it-all buttnugget.




Seriously, anybody that was watching that video and was seriously thinking "OH YEAH FUCK YEAH GET THAT FUCKING GUY," is a fucking sociopath.
Tasers are fucking dangerous. TGB can deny it all he wants because apparently people like amnesty international are the enemy to him, and you cant trust them.
FAX ME THROUGH THE REPORT BY MONDAY, ya fuckin douche.

[quote:544c8]Go smoke the peace pipe and w/e other hip aware thing the kids do these days. [/quote:544c8]

LOVED this part. Keep it up, friendless.

[RaNgeR]

Yeah..calling him a nut isn't exactly right; what you said sums it up. Keep on smoking that peace pipe...lol.

[TK-423]

Being zapped with a taser is being electrocuted. I'm not comment on anything else, but a zap from a taser is definitely getting electrocuted.