[Milla]

Stag Arms lower 240 not to shabby.

[Simo Häyhä]

Arkan, since you're a new yorker do you think its possible to get an AK-74 around here?
I've been hearing that 5.45 has been going down in price and i just love the look of it.

[Milla]

Arkan you carry a In the belt holster when you carrY?

[Arkan]

I'll answer both questions....

Simo:
As for an AK-74, as long as it's in a "post-ban" configuration...perfectly legal. You can't have a bayo lug, a "flash suppressor", or a collapsible stock. As for magazines, just use dated "pre-bans" and you're golden.

Milla:
When i carry my Sig .40, it's in an "inside the waistband" holster. If i opt to carry the bigger .357 revolver, it'll be in an "outside the waistband" holster (a belt holster) Winter carry i can get away with this set up due to the bulk of the gun. Also, if i'm in a pinch and i'm wearing pants, the small J-frame Smith sometimes is worn on the ankle or tucked away in a pocket.

I'll use the ankle set up if i feel the need for 2 guns.

[Milla]

Its a shame my USP Compact is a double stack .45 so its pretty thick, an in the belt would fucking destroy my hip. and outside is to bulky. But i do have a Blackhawk CQC holster which is fucking money for quick draw

[Simo Häyhä]

Pistol license application for upstate NY
Obtain an application from your local licensing agent, either the local police or county clerk.
Fill in the application and obtain any required character references signatures and have your application Notarized.
Be fingerprinted and submit your application.
Wait while you are being investigated and your fingerprints are sent to the FBI.
After your fingerprints are returned from the FBI and the investigation is completed your application is normally sent to your county's Pistol License office and then forwarded to licensing officer for review and decision. (Depending on what the county that you live in requires, you may have to take a safety class and you may have to meet with the licensing officer. Some counties also have additional requirements.)
The paperwork will be returned to the Pistol License office and they will send you a letter informing you of the outcome.
If approved, you will have to go to the required location to have your license validated by putting your thumbprint on the back of your license. You will also be given a slip to give to the owner of the handgun that your are transferring to your license.
Using your new license you can go to the store an pick up your first handgun. Give them the Purchase Slip and they will retain the slip for their records.
You are now a legal handgun owner in New York State.


requirements
be a resident of the county that you apply in.
be 21 years old to be issued a license.
have people willing to be character references.
not be barred from owning a gun under federal or state law.
be able to provide a set of fingerprints.
provide 3 recent passport photos.
answer all questions on an application.
provide honest answers to all questions. (Supplying false information constitutes sufficient reason for denial of the application. YOU MUST LIST EVERY TIME YOU HAVE BEEN ARRESTED NO MATTER WHAT THE OUTCOME OR IF THE RECORDS ARE SEALED.)
pay the required fees to the NYSDCJS and your local County Clerk.
sign your application in front of a Notary Public who must fill in the bottom right section.
have all handguns that you own listed on your license.










God...I hate new york

[dr nein]

Holy shit. CA pales in comparison to that. All I had to do was go in to the same dealer I got my P38 at, take some test that asked if it was a bad idea to load a pistol and fire it at my testicles, and show some identification and proof of residence. The character reference thing is pretty ridiculous.

[Arkan]

Originally Posted by dr nein

Holy shit. CA pales in comparison to that. All I had to do was go in to the same dealer I got my P38 at, take some test that asked if it was a bad idea to load a pistol and fire it at my testicles, and show some identification and proof of residence. The character reference thing is pretty ridiculous.

Is that P-38 C&R ? If so, perhaps that's why it was easier to do.

Getting your permit in NY is a bullshit process....one that's not impossible, just a deterrent. They do that shit on purpose so most people wouldn't bother. Another form of gun control.

Ok, edited to say......The Investigator called me today to inform me that i needed to surrender the newer High Standard double nine revolver. It was never registered and it'll be a pain in the ass to trace it so they'll just destroy it. I don't have a problem with that. The other pistols can be registered to me because they are "War bring-backs" but i need to deal with some red tape.
Called my friend today and gave him the scoop. He told me he wasn't interested in them and i can keep them. So, i'll be filling out some paperwork this week for the other 2 pistols. Lets see what happens.

[dr nein]

Nein. I don't remember the exact term but it was something like Handgun Safety Permit which I guess is just the same as a license. I also had to sign some paper stating I have a safe to keep it in. It was all rather surprising, I guess CA's style is just to place heavy restrictions on the guns themselves, because if going on a shooting rampage I wouldn't ever think of bringing extra magazines.

[Milla]

Good stuff Arkan, your a lucky fucker to get those 2 german pistols.


BTW let my AR-15 build begin. I just ordered a Stag Arms lower it should be here by Thanksgiving...than when i get back from Iraq i can build the upper I want.



Its got a cool Buck on it, and its made in New Britain, CT. Mine will have this stock on it:

[rudedog]

Originally Posted by Arkan

I'll answer both questions....

Simo:
As for an AK-74, as long as it's in a "post-ban" configuration...perfectly legal. You can't have a bayo lug, a "flash suppressor", or a collapsible stock. As for magazines, just use dated "pre-bans" and you're golden.

Milla:
When i carry my Sig .40, it's in an "inside the waistband" holster. If i opt to carry the bigger .357 revolver, it'll be in an "outside the waistband" holster (a belt holster) Winter carry i can get away with this set up due to the bulk of the gun. Also, if i'm in a pinch and i'm wearing pants, the small J-frame Smith sometimes is worn on the ankle or tucked away in a pocket.

I'll use the ankle set up if i feel the need for 2 guns.

I was under the impression that the "Assault weapons ban" expired and President bush never renewed it - Thanks god and what a stupid name.
Man am I kicking myself to trading in my Colt Mustang. Down here in FL, during the summer even with a low profile sidearm, it's damn hard to concealed and I wish I still had my colt. I know I got screwed when trading that in for my wifes new SIG.

Originally Posted by Milla

Its a shame my USP Compact is a double stack .45 so its pretty thick, an in the belt would fucking destroy my hip. and outside is to bulky. But i do have a Blackhawk CQC holster which is fucking money for quick draw

Milla, what do you use for your inside the band holster? I'm trying to get something better then the generic leather one I have now. I use to use a shoulder rig, but that seems so 80-ish LOL.

Originally Posted by Arkan

Getting your permit in NY is a bullshit process....one that's not impossible, just a deterrent. They do that shit on purpose so most people wouldn't bother. Another form of gun control.

Tell me about it Arkan's, back in RI you had to jump through the same hoops but you really could only obtain your CWP for a business. However as of recently, you can only use the CWP when your working?????? I worked for my dad's antique and jewelry shop and you're in more danger off the job when someone will really want to jump you. Never mind the laws regarding using a firearm to defend your family or property in north. One of the main reasons I moved down here to FL.

Funny thing is, in RI you have to take a marksmanship test to qualify but they will give you no info on the laws regarding CWP carrying. That is up to you to find out and they don't want to help at all.
Down here in FL, they make you take a class, with a LOE, give you all the laws in a booklet, go over some scenarios but all you have to do at the range, is not shoot yourself, the range instructor or anyone else around you and you pass. That in itself is a little scary. Granted they push you to go to the range and practice at least once every couple weeks.

Milla, when you heading out? I've contacted my dad to find out where he's at. He is now a civilian working at one of the very secure areas in Baghdad and if you get any RR or are stationed near him, you should stop by. He runs a little so called cafe, where a lot of big wigs from all branches of the military as well as a lot of special ops hang out. He's old school military and knows how to have fun in difficult areas around the world, or so I'm told by a bunch of rangers who had dinner at our grandmothers house a couple years ago. Something about him shooting their camp rattlesnake mascot one very late evening. I'm getting more info to pass on to you. Any little bit helps over there.

[Tystnad]

Milla: Good call on the VLTOR Carbine Modstock, theyre sweet as hell. Got one on my airsoft M4 now, and I loves it.

[Arkan]

Rude, here in the "People's Republic of New York" we're still under the ban. Civilians can't own a magazine that holds more than 10 rounds (unless it's "Pre-ban" 8/94) Our AR-15's/AK-47's etc may not have any of these "evil" features if it has a "detachable magazine":
Collapsible stock
Flash hider/suppressor
Bayonet lug
You may only have these "evil" features if your rifle was manufactured BEFORE the federal ban.
All of my magazines are "dated pre-bans", so i have a lot of "legal" 30 rounders for the rifles.
The laws are ass-backwards but it's something i'll have to put up with until i make my move to NC.

Milla:
I have a RRA "bare" lower and i'm about to do my 20" build. What upper are you leaning towards? I haven't decided on mine yet. I still have to install the trigger & springs in the lower and add the stock i removed from my Bushy. I do know i'm going with a flat top so i can add optics. This rifle will be set up for optics only. I'm going to an 8 hour carbine class on the 18th and i haven't decided on what rifle i'll be bringing to the class. All i know is....no matter what platform (AR/AK) i decide on, i want to bring a 2nd rifle as backup in case one shits the bed. I know the chances are slim but....it's a fucking 8 hr course and i don't want to be standing there with my thumb up my ass if my rifle shits out in the 1st hour. I have (2) friends who are willing to lend me a backup rifle for the day. All i need to do now is decide which one goes through the course.

[BlackJackal]

when are you moving to nc?

[Arkan]

Originally Posted by BlackJackal

when are you moving to nc?

I'm flying there in January sometime (hopefully) to look for some land. I went to Oriental last year and looked around. This time i'm going to check out the Southport area. I want to lock down a piece of property now and see what the future holds for me. As far as a move....not in the near future unfortunately.