Bright skins list: detection, kicking...

yochoylamuete · **Bright skins list: detection, kicking... -** 10-09-2002, 06:24 AM

Hello every1,

I'm working on a little proggy which scans the server's clients looking for some "neon" skins and then warns the admin and/or kicks the offending player. It has also some added features, like scanning private/public slots (it warns you if a public player is on a private slot or if a private player is using one of the public slots), protecting some skins (if you're on a clan people can download your skins to see you, but they can be kicked if they try to use them) and also it can send scheduled commands to the server (so that you can change the game type after some time, warn the players about those changes or server restarts or even quit the server, for example). I know some of this features will be included into the next autokick, but just I can wait biggrin:

Anyway, my main concern now is having the community feedback about the bright skins. I've already compiled a pretty large list of them, but I'm sure I'm missing a lot also. So, please, if you know of any neon or bright skins not listed here, please tell me the name (it would be great if you could post a pic or a download link, also!). And I would like to know your opinion about default winter skins being added to the list (when the server is not running Snowy Park). My current list is:

alig
ali_
allied_rodman_nike
allied_britney
german-ch33taz
allied_giant
allied_sabu
allied_flander
axis_flanders
allied_[lord]_snowtrooper
allied_home
axis_away
allied_garycoleman
allied_bluesoldier
german_red
german_redskull
allied_utigerlt
allied_the_human_target
allied_eddie
german_gayhitler
allied_nh
allied_kaitlyn
allied_marilyn_mannon
German-ax-ronald
German_spiderman
MickDude_spiderman
german_oompa
german_redstealth
allied_snakestealth
german_snakestealth
allied_snow
german_snow
german_worker_dead
axis_hans
axis_zombie
allied_grandmaster_flash
allied_lara_croft
german_fairy
german_hitler
allied_luigi
allied_sonic
german_mario
allied_schoolgirl
german_dutchsscamo1
tiedie
german_oakleave
german_wehrmacht_cobra
crazyhorse-1

I know some of you wouldn't agree on this list, but the user would be able to add/remove his own skins. If anyone is interested on such a program, I think I will submit it to aa.com in a few days. Anyway, here's a screenshot of the beta:

[img]http://www.uv.es/~astracan/delator.gif[/img]

Wolf-Man · 10-09-2002, 06:31 AM

allied_utigerlt ?

Thats my Urban Tiger skin... How is that a bright cheating skin?
[img]http://www.planetmedalofhonor.com/wolf-man/skins/urbantiger4.jpg[/img]

...and there are so many ways around altering the skins so you won't be able to detect them.

=[DOA]=VonMeyer · 10-09-2002, 06:44 AM

They can rename the pk3 file to something that wont be detected. As for wolfs urban tiger i think you need glasses. I dont see it as a bright skin Besides people make there own bright skins so why bother making a program to detect them when theres also Dumpuser?

yochoylamuete · 10-09-2002, 06:46 AM

It's not yours, but this one:

[img]http://www.alliedassault.com/img/User-blueurbantiger-redskull-1.jpg[/img]

...which was apparently developped using yours.

I know there's a lot of ways to avoid any kind of detection, but I'm already running this on our clan server and I can tell you I'm surprised of how many people uses bright models to help his aiming skills. Also, as a skinner, I'm suprised too of how lazy people can be when you ask them to do their own modifications biggrin:

By the way, nice skin biggrin:

Regards

yochoylamuete · 10-09-2002, 06:52 AM

[quote:982a9]They can rename the pk3 file to something that wont be detected. As for wolfs urban tiger i think you need glasses. I dont see it as a bright skin Besides people make there own bright skins so why bother making a program to detect them when theres also Dumpuser?[/quote:982a9]

It doesn't look for the pk3 name, that would be stupid.

About wolfs skin, see above.

I do already wear glasses.

Have you tried to type in the console dumpuser "[~IR~]-+ImExample+-"..? I did.

=[DOA]=VonMeyer · 10-09-2002, 06:58 AM

Yeah and so far i been catching some pepople with bright skins.

yochoylamuete · 10-09-2002, 07:00 AM

I did too, but I prefer to play the game and let the program do the work.

r3mix · 10-09-2002, 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yochoylamuete

It doesn't look for the pk3 name, that would be stupid. About wolfs skin, see above. Have you tried to type in the console dumpuser "[~IR~]-+ImExample+-"..? I did.

no it looks at the TIK name via the output the dumpuser command returns which is just as trivial to alter.

in any event i would guess Wolf-man's skin is more likely to be used than that other one so you should get rid of that entry.

you also cannot consider kicking players for using one of the default skins..... its ridiculous.

Captain_McCusker · 10-09-2002, 07:37 AM

Damn, and I was excited that someone had put together a list. tiedie is the only one I've seen on the server that's been obvious.

So my assumption is that force-skins (hahaha) is the only way to go in defending ourselves against this? That is, consider DMz DogTags. A function in their allows you to force a server-sided skin on all of the users (I haven't tested this yet). Is that the only way to go?

rudedog · 10-09-2002, 08:37 AM

Guys give this a chance. This is why he is asking the community.

To get your feedback so he can make his app better.

Like he said you will be able to pick and chose. I would however recommend all skins are unchecked at first install .This way you make the user go into your app and pick the ones he wants removed.
Maybe a little more work but a icon with an image of each skin ( to the admin knows what the "cheater" is using.

Remember we lock our car doors to keep the stupid criminals out. It does not make the care completely safe. there are other ways in. I would assume this would keep at lest 50% of the players honest. Hell that's 50% more then now.

Miscguy · 10-09-2002, 09:02 AM

Im with Rude dog. Give it a whirl. Most people are to lazy to go messing with items that are even trivial. It will weed out those who simpl go to some site and grab it real fast. If the admin keeps there list up to date with even the modified "names" then the skin would still be useless.

I would like to see it posted here at AA.com just so the option is available. Considering i've never even heard of the dumpuser rcon command. What does it do?

Miscguy · 10-09-2002, 09:10 AM

nevermind i found dumpuser in Rudes, rcon guide.

[url:c19b9]http://mohaa.xgshosting.com/rcon.htm[/url:c19b9]

Captain_McCusker · 10-09-2002, 09:21 AM

3 People were banned yesterday alone from my server for using bright skins using dumpuser. I'd gladly give it a look over if it were available. Although I'd probably find more comfort in DMz Force Skins (er, no, let me restate that... the server-side forced skins? damn, just doesn't work LOL)

Bazooka_Joe · 10-09-2002, 10:52 AM

I think this is an excellent idea, and I wish yocho luck, hopefully this proggie will work out the way you want it to. Another valueable asset to the MOH community. biggrin:

=[DOA]=VonMeyer · 10-09-2002, 11:01 AM

Ill try it on the DOA server and see what happens. When is this program due out?