[Recycled Spooge]

[quote=pest]

Originally Posted by "Recycled Spooge":72d29

I'm pretty sure that Marx and Engels were communists. By liberal, you are mentioning me, and I am by far not politically correct...EVER, so don't label me as one.

Yes, they were communist theorists (living fat in france), but the Soviet SOCIALIST republic was much closer in practice to socialism than communism. Marx' Communist manifesto is one of the most painfully boring pieces of literature I have ever had to read. It seemed to be more about revenge against the bourgeois than equality.

Gee, never noticed that you werent politically correct. [/quote:72d29]

Communist theorists... so there's no democrats, but democrat theorists, or no nazis but nazi theorists? The Soviet SOCIALIST Republic, as you put it, was was never a communist nation nor a socialist nation. It was a totalitarian nation, and the workers did not own anything. Instead, the country was run by a bunch of thugs and former criminals; it was controlled by the few. Also, according to Marx, the revolution was supposed to take place in a industrialy developed nation, and obviously 1917 Russia was not something one would describe as an industrially developed nation.

Ok, and regarding the topic, I believe that a public school should not be bias toward any type of political, racial, religious, or economical ideals. If there are ideals taught or represented in a school, all the ideals should be taught and represented equally. School should be a perfectly neutral place, which should have the American flag just to show that the school is located in the United States. The Confederate Flag represents a set of ideals, just like having the Ten Commandments up on the wall of a classroom; thus, making the school bias toward some set of ideals. In terms of what people wear in the school, they should be able to wear whatever they want. Last of all, in my opinion, the Confederate Flag is a symbol of an alien nation that was never part of the United States; it's like hanging up the Italian flag in front of a public American school. It makes no sense to me. :P

[[WaffenSS]Cethin]

The reason why the conferdate flag was banned from the school is for one reason and one reason only, it was disrupting the educational experience for the other students. If they took this case all the way to the Supreme Court saying that their first amendment rights were broken, they would get shot down by the supreme court. I know this because I am in a Legal Civics class this year and we've done debates on things dealing with the first amendment.

There was a case called the Tinker case that took place in school. Students were wearing black armbands with the peace symbol on it which was protesting the vietnam war back when it was going on. The school board tried to ban them from wearing armbands so they suspended them from school. The Tinkers took this to court and it was backed by the ACLU which is an organization that supports cases with first amendment offenses. The case went all the way up to the supreme court and they ruled in favor of the students. They said that the armbands was a freedom of speach via symbolic expression. But they could not ban them from wearing arm bands because it did not disrupt any other students educational experience.

You can say the same thing here only the confederate flag WILL cause issues in school because the KKK uses this flag during their rituals and such. I'm sure there's other reasons why the confederate flag will cause debates and things but that's probably the main reason.

You could try bringing this to court but...you wont win overall.

[Pfc.Green]

"disrupting the educational experience " biggrin: hake: biggrin:

[Xer0]

Here in Sweden we cant listen on a band that sings about sweden,our culture,vikings and their way of life without be called a nazi thanks to the damn political and shitty newspaper but noone is complaining when you are listening on tupac or wu-tang and rap shit like that even though they sing that they dont like white people and sings abour raping people and taking drogs. Thats just sick

Some people wear the soviet flag on their t-shirt without being called something even though the soviet nation was one of the brutaliest in the world killed millions and millions of people much more than Hitler. Stalin killed up to 60 million and think about the other leaders under the soviet union.
But Hitler killed up to 12 million and if you were a shirt with the svastika (noone does it anyway) whole sweden would come chasing after you. Kinda sick I think. Dont take this wrong I hate the soviet union as much as I hate the nazi but its sick that people arentt aware that the soviet was the brutaliest of them.

[ninty]

I think Hitler was a little worse than Stalin. Hitler was pretty much directly responsible for all the deaths of WWII which would be about 66 million. Stalin on the other hand was more responsible for 15-20 million either starved or executed.

[Lone_Wolf]

Just wanted to say that I had some problem with this account i forgot the password ( so long time since i posted here) so i made a new account but now I figure out the password.

So Xer0 is lone_wolf and lone_wolf is me oOo:

[Lone_Wolf]

Originally Posted by ninty9

I think Hitler was a little worse than Stalin. Hitler was pretty much directly responsible for all the deaths of WWII which would be about 66 million. Stalin on the other hand was more responsible for 15-20 million either starved or executed.

You havent been on your history lessons havnet you? I mean people that were killed by either murder,starving and lot of other way not by war

[Low spark]

[quote="Lone_Wolf":677b7].

So Xer0 is lone_wolf and lone_wolf is me oOo:[/quote:677b7]

You are not me

[Lone_Wolf]

[quote="Low spark":f43e6][quote="Lone_Wolf":f43e6].

So Xer0 is lone_wolf and lone_wolf is me oOo:[/quote:f43e6]

You are not me[/quote:f43e6]

Eat shit and die bigzooka:

[Arkan]

[quote="Recycled Spooge":9c36e]
Congratulations on explaining the obvious. I expected more of you. I expected that if you had an opinion, you would at least have a logical opinion based on reality, which is what I ment; how will your opinion work in reality, and you have clearly explained that it does not, so thank you. Your opinion does not work in practical use.[/quote:9c36e]

Now i'm convinced....you were dropped on your head as a kid weren't you?

[[WaffenSS]Cethin]

[quote="Pfc.Green":79f6a]"disrupting the educational experience " biggrin: hake: biggrin:[/quote:79f6a]

Mind telling me why that's not true? Obviously you didnt read my entire post

[ninty]

[quote="Lone_Wolf":b7b93][quote=ninty9]I think Hitler was a little worse than Stalin. Hitler was pretty much directly responsible for all the deaths of WWII which would be about 66 million. Stalin on the other hand was more responsible for 15-20 million either starved or executed.[/quote]

You havent been on your history lessons havnet you? I mean people that were killed by either murder,starving and lot of other way not by war[/quote:b7b93]

I haven't been on my history lessons? No I haven't been on them... oOo:

[url="http://www.moreorless.au.com/killers/killers.htm"]http://www.moreorless.au.com/killers/killers.htm[/url]

[Arkan]

[quote="Low spark":f7c1d]And Arkan, I tell you what my father said to me when we watched protestera burning the American flag on the news durning the Viet Nam War, he said "I don't like what they are doing, but I fought in World War Two so they could have the freedom do that. It's a symbol, nothing more.

The Ameican Flag is a symbol of Freedom, and our freedoms are more important than a symbol .
Display it proudly.

ENJOY[/quote:f7c1d]

Your Father is right (thats what i said in the begining of my post) but i find it disrespectful (just like your Dad did) to see people in this country bowing down to other flags. Kudos to your pops for fighting for our freedom. Tell him i said "Thanks"

[Lone_Wolf]

[quote=ninty9][quote="Lone_Wolf":4015b][quote=ninty9]I think Hitler was a little worse than Stalin. Hitler was pretty much directly responsible for all the deaths of WWII which would be about 66 million. Stalin on the other hand was more responsible for 15-20 million either starved or executed.[/quote]

You havent been on your history lessons havnet you? I mean people that were killed by either murder,starving and lot of other way not by war[/quote]

I haven't been on my history lessons? No I haven't been on them... oOo:

[url="http://www.moreorless.au.com/killers/killers.htm"]http://www.moreorless.au.com/killers/killers.htm[/url][/quote:4015b]

HAHAAHAHA Sure that Hermann Göring killed 51 million people and Hitler killed 66 million sure [insert sarcastic laughter here]. Responsiblity cant be argued. You cant just tell things like that because they were other countrys that were responsible for peoples death than germany in ww2 like in Finland that was Soviet fault because they attacked Finland not to foget Asia too. All this fights was a part of ww2 and are Hitler responsible for them? It cant simply be argued.
This is what it said on the site you showed me:

About 51 million people have died in Europe during the war

And Hitler was responsible for 66 million? Thats whats you said.

I have read books by people that have come up with the death numbers I am talking about. They have made investagations something that those guys on the site havent. Stalin directly killed up to60 million people. Mao zedong killled even more and stills it says that he killed 15 million on that site. Damn stupid I think.

[ninty]

I can hardly understand what you are saying.

What I think you're saying is that you think this means Hitler actually personally killed 66 million. That is not true, but if it wern't for him, no one would have dies in WWII and 6 million Jews would n't have been killed. Get the point?

Other than that I have no idea what else your saying.