Cheating!

HaVoc · **Cheating! -** 10-16-2002, 05:05 PM

"STFU ALREADY!!! WE KNOW, IT SUX!! BUT ALL THIS BITCHING IS WORTH SHIT" = You

No this post isn't to bitch about those selfish bastrads. You know, who aren't content with their own skill level, and feel the need to cheat and ruin the game for others, so that they feel better about themselves.

No, this post is a general question about the issue. Now that cheating has started to play a major factor in many MP games these day, is there anything that game compaines can do to stop hacks & cheats from being uploaded? Or reduce access to these kinds of sites? Or at least some way to scan user's files for cheats before they enter a sever? ...Casue nothing kills a MP game faster then a heavy volume of cheaters.

Low spark · 10-16-2002, 05:23 PM

My suggestion is to be choosy about which server you play on.

Neo Nazi Hitler · 10-16-2002, 05:26 PM

yea play in a good server, like crow's =)

Swill · **hey hey -** 10-16-2002, 05:31 PM

Come on neo stop swearing, please? bigzooka: chop: Cheaters will always be around well atleast that i know of and company`s can do wahtever thay can do and still hackers will think smarter and push around the block for hacking/cheating.Its just to simple to them.
But hey i want them busted or caught or punished etc.... just as much as most players playing mp games these days but the best thing we can do is probably ban from a server and thats about it but what else can there be done.
Ah well,there should be like a hackers server,this way the hackers will have a challenge against other hackers so they can keep to themselves.
Just how i feel

=[BANE]= · 10-17-2002, 08:38 AM

Actions can be taken to keep the cheaters at a minimum, but that's about it I would think. There will never be a way to eliminate them altogether. As long as the developers give the players the tools to create someone will use those tools to destroy. That's human nature.

The best thing we can do on a personal level is to pay attention to where we play and who we play with. I've joined servers where people are floating all over the map, landsharking, etc, etc...and I just leave. Players in this community (aa.com/aan.net) and cheaters are like oil and water. If you let it be for enough time we'll form two distinct groups. Let the cheaters play with the cheaters and we'll have fun enjoying the game as it was intended.

pest · 10-17-2002, 10:25 AM

If the development companys dont help control cheaters, their isnt much to do but play on a well admined server. Cheat sites are not illegal and trying to close or hack them is a form of censorship/vandalism worse than cheating. I have had very few encounters with cheaters, and if I have, it was just a challange. I saw my first landsharking last night on AAN and after a brief conversation with the guy, he agreed to quit. If he hadnt, I would have left.

SNYPE00 · 10-17-2002, 12:54 PM

Thats what I like about the concept of the Ponto40 Anticheat product or Dogmeats Dogtagz, the ability to stop cheaters from getting into game servers with their cheats!!
Like Lowspark said, be choosy about your servers. Good server admins will install thesse products because they want to run a good game! Let those cheatin SOBs go to the servers where the admins dont give a ****! They can all enjoy each other's cheatin.

MPowell1944 · 10-17-2002, 01:22 PM

to note on this topic about the anti-force models mod that is out now.

i joined a server today with force models on. when i entered the server, only about 80% of the skins were forced. so i went and unchecked and checked the button again. then all of the models went forced. about 5 minutes later, some of the skins werent forced anymore. so i just entered a console command and fixed that little problem.

simple as 1,2,3.

Captain_McCusker · 10-17-2002, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pest

I saw my first landsharking last night on AAN and after a brief conversation with the guy, he agreed to quit. If he hadnt, I would have left.

I'm actually quite pissed that you were witness to that and that he got away with it. The rule on the server is that if you are caught, you're banned. Simple. However, not all admins can be there all the time and I think that's where I fail my server the most. The most I can do during most hours is watch through the eyes of AutoKick, which doesn't tell you when someone's cheating.

Anyone from aa.com who plays on AAN, I would deeply appreciate your help in policing this stuff by reporting the offender to me or another admin (for which we can at least observe the offender the next time we see him/her). I just want you all to know that I don't allow it and I DO in fact want a server that's as quality as those most of you play on.

r3mix · 10-17-2002, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MPowell1944

to note on this topic about the anti-force models mod that is out now.

i joined a server today with force models on. when i entered the server, only about 80% of the skins were forced. so i went and unchecked and checked the button again. then all of the models went forced. about 5 minutes later, some of the skins werent forced anymore. so i just entered a console command and fixed that little problem.

simple as 1,2,3.

whats your point?
this is a mod not a patch. what you say might have relevance if you knew what mods the server was running.

Matrf · **Re: Cheating! -** 10-17-2002, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HaVoc

"STFU ALREADY!!! WE KNOW, IT SUX!! BUT ALL THIS BITCHING IS WORTH SHIT" = You

No this post isn't to bitch about those selfish bastrads. You know, who aren't content with their own skill level, and feel the need to cheat and ruin the game for others, so that they feel better about themselves.

No, this post is a general question about the issue. Now that cheating has started to play a major factor in many MP games these day, is there anything that game compaines can do to stop hacks & cheats from being uploaded? Or reduce access to these kinds of sites? Or at least some way to scan user's files for cheats before they enter a sever? ...Casue nothing kills a MP game faster then a heavy volume of cheaters.

They can't stop hacking/warez . Its just impossible . Only communist can stop this.

And only communist can stop cheater and cheat.

If you can understand my english and what i mean..... oOo:

henry707 · **Paranoid Android -** 10-18-2002, 06:21 AM

Hello,

There are always loads of posts on cheating - I agree with the above - pick your server - you get to know the guys there, their style etc etc

I know there are some cheaters out there but you can't let it ruin your game. Folks are working on ways to stop it but there always be new ones coming along.

As long as the number of decent players outweights cheaters then we can keep kicking the cheaters off when we find them. I know it's frusrating....

H707

MPowell1944 · 10-18-2002, 07:33 AM

remix,

i notice that no matter what i say, you always have a snappy comment to say right back. find some free-time bro, and do something constructive.

pest · 10-18-2002, 08:37 AM

[quote="Captain_McCusker":b2783]I'm actually quite pissed that you were witness to that and that he got away with it. The rule on the server is that if you are caught, you're banned........
[/quote:b2783]

I know. I would have given you his name, but after a letting him know that he would get banned for doing what he was doing, he stopped land sharking. If he had been confrontational or insisted on continueing, ou would have heard from me. Everyone knows you cant always be there and the server seems to be quality. I will be by form time to time.

VonMeyer · 10-18-2002, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MPowell1944

to note on this topic about the anti-force models mod that is out now.

i joined a server today with force models on. when i entered the server, only about 80% of the skins were forced. so i went and unchecked and checked the button again. then all of the models went forced. about 5 minutes later, some of the skins werent forced anymore. so i just entered a console command and fixed that little problem.

simple as 1,2,3.

Yeah i bet you did.