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Default 11-15-2005, 07:11 PM

[quote="newt.":0f0de]I don't know a shitload about osama, but i heard most muslims don't view him as a real bad person. so it could badfire if we caught him and whatever.

but really I think we should remove his eyelids, cut off his head, burn his head, piss on his corpse, and bury him, upside down, in an unmarked grave[/quote:0f0de] eek: "badfire if we caught him and whatever"...that was a real thought out sentence.


  
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Default 11-15-2005, 07:24 PM

[quote="newt.":f86f3] but really I think we should remove his eyelids, cut off his head, burn his head, piss on his corpse, and bury him, upside down, in an unmarked grave[/quote:f86f3]
..that's too good for the bastard, I say we place a bucket of water on the top edge
of a slightly ajar door and then say "Osama, could you pls come in here for a moment."
  
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Default 11-16-2005, 02:55 PM

[quote="Eight Ace":36c33][quote="newt.":36c33] but really I think we should remove his eyelids, cut off his head, burn his head, piss on his corpse, and bury him, upside down, in an unmarked grave[/quote:36c33]
..that's too good for the bastard, I say we place a bucket of water on the top edge
of a slightly ajar door and then say "Osama, could you pls come in here for a moment."[/quote:36c33]And that would help us how? Would it bring back the people who died in 9/11? No. Would it better or view with the rest of the world, especially the islamic world? No. Can we really blame a man for fighting for what he believes in? Yes, his beliefs are contradictory to ours. yes, he has made innocent people suffer and die. However, in his eyes, we have done the same. Instead of being the stereotypical americans, why dont you two take a minute to think "outside the box?" *sigh*
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Default 11-16-2005, 03:13 PM

"If you're going to kick a tiger in his ass, you'd better be prepared to deal with his teeth."

Fuck Osama! Burn him at the stake, live on Al Jazeera. spank:
  
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Default 11-16-2005, 04:48 PM

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"If you're going to kick a tiger in his ass, you'd better be prepared to deal with his teeth."

Fuck Osama! Burn him at the stake, live on Al Jazeera. spank:
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Instead of being the stereotypical americans, why dont you two take a minute to think "outside the box?"
Dont you see this attitude of f-ck this, nuke that, burn him, etc is one of the reasons why countries dislike us so much?
  
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Default 11-16-2005, 05:18 PM

[quote=Trunks][quote="Eight Ace":c6267]
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but really I think we should remove his eyelids, cut off his head, burn his head, piss on his corpse, and bury him, upside down, in an unmarked grave
..that's too good for the bastard, I say we place a bucket of water on the top edge
of a slightly ajar door and then say "Osama, could you pls come in here for a moment."[/quote:c6267]And that would help us how? Would it bring back the people who died in 9/11? No. Would it better or view with the rest of the world, especially the islamic world? No. Can we really blame a man for fighting for what he believes in? Yes, his beliefs are contradictory to ours. yes, he has made innocent people suffer and die. However, in his eyes, we have done the same. Instead of being the stereotypical americans, why dont you two take a minute to think "outside the box?" *sigh*
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fighting for what he belives in? As in killing thousands of civilians, welp, I say that what he believes in is wrong.

Not only that but anyone that fights whether a reason or not has to face any consequences of his actions. Hes fucked in the head he deserves to die for it. Not everyone from his religion wants to blow innocent civilians up
  
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Default 11-16-2005, 05:54 PM

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but really I think we should remove his eyelids, cut off his head, burn his head, piss on his corpse, and bury him, upside down, in an unmarked grave
..that's too good for the bastard, I say we place a bucket of water on the top edge
of a slightly ajar door and then say "Osama, could you pls come in here for a moment."
And that would help us how? Would it bring back the people who died in 9/11? No. Would it better or view with the rest of the world, especially the islamic world? No. Can we really blame a man for fighting for what he believes in? Yes, his beliefs are contradictory to ours. yes, he has made innocent people suffer and die. However, in his eyes, we have done the same. Instead of being the stereotypical americans, why dont you two take a minute to think "outside the box?" *sigh*
*puts up anti-flame shield*[/quote:3e4e1]

fighting for what he belives in? As in killing thousands of civilians, welp, I say that what he believes in is wrong.

Not only that but anyone that fights whether a reason or not has to face any consequences of his actions. Hes fucked in the head he deserves to die for it. Not everyone from his religion wants to blow innocent civilians up[/quote:3e4e1]He fights for what he believes in. Again, what he believes in might not make sense to you. But you have not been raised as he was. You do not see things from his perspective. We view him as a terrorist, he views himself as a freedom fighter. He believes he is justified in attacking america, for many reasons, one of the major ones undoubtedly being helping Israel. Yes, because of him, thousands have died. But because of America aiding Israel, thousands of muslims died in a series of wars with Israel. Thousands of Iraqis have been killed as a result of America invading Iraq. I am not trying to be "Devil's Advocate," but I am trying to get you people to see things from a different perspective. In order to conquer your enemy, you must first learn to understand your enemy. And if we put Osama to death, then we should be putting every single insurgent to death, no questions asked.
  
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Default 11-16-2005, 07:16 PM

There are only two things you can do with an enemy, kill him or make him your friend.


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Default 11-16-2005, 07:23 PM

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And if we put Osama to death, then we should be putting every single insurgent to death, no questions asked.
Now you're talking. rock:
  
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Default 11-17-2005, 12:37 PM

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And if we put Osama to death, then we should be putting every single insurgent to death, no questions asked.
Now you're talking. rock:
ok...but if you take this attitude dont be outraged when every coalition soldier that is captured is beheaded/shot on the spot.
  
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Default 11-17-2005, 06:28 PM

[quote:c45b5]But you have not been raised as he was.[/quote:c45b5]

Yea - I got to eat beans and rice days a week while this fuck was living it up in the lap of luxory. And in all that free luxorious time, he developed a lil hating for the Jews and the Westerners. Just the same as any rich-spoiled "activist".
  
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Default 11-17-2005, 06:59 PM

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And if we put Osama to death, then we should be putting every single insurgent to death, no questions asked.
Now you're talking. rock:
ok...but if you take this attitude dont be outraged when every coalition soldier that is captured is beheaded/shot on the spot.
I've certainly come to expect this. Seriously guy, it seems your whole agenda is "let's not do anything to make them mad." Number 1, its too late for that. Number 2, not buying into their religious ideology is enough for the fundamentalists to want to cleanse the earth of you.
  
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Default 11-18-2005, 05:27 PM

[quote="TGB!":f191a][quote:f191a]But you have not been raised as he was.[/quote:f191a]

Yea - I got to eat beans and rice days a week while this fuck was living it up in the lap of luxory. And in all that free luxorious time, he developed a lil hating for the Jews and the Westerners. Just the same as any rich-spoiled "activist".[/quote:f191a]You missed the point. From a young age, he was taught, and raised to hate jews, Israel, America, etc. Blaming him for hating the people he was raised to hate is hypocritical. How you may ask? For example, about 90% of the american populace hates communists/communism, and of that, Id say only about 30% or so actually have the vaguest idea of what it actually is, but the rest still hate it, because society rased them to hate it.

tomxtr, my "agenda" is not to not upset/anger them, if that makes any sense, it is to treat insurgents etc as human beings. Just because they are willing to do horrible things doesnt mean we should be.
  
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Default 11-18-2005, 06:31 PM

Wrong! I don't know too many Americans who want to go and blow up communists.

BTW, I don't consider killing insurgents and terrorists before they kill any of us to fall in the category of "horrible things."

If a guy raised on the street to rob and steal breaks into my house, I'll shoot his ass before I take the opportunity to "walk a mile in his shoes" and treat him like a human. As far as I'm concerned, you give up the right to be treated as a human being when you conduct yourself as a barbarian.

That's not to say that I can't understand where Iraqi insurgents are coming from. Osama Bin Laden is another story entirely. I pray to God that we catch him alive and put him to death on a world stage. We owe that much to the people in the airplanes, towers, and pentagon.
  
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Default 11-18-2005, 06:46 PM

But Americans do want to go and blow up Terrorists.

It's a never ending cycle. Terrorist blow up america, ammerica blow up terrorists. In the process, civilians homes and families are destroyed, they themselves become terrorists to the US.

I'm sure if you ask them, their doing the same thing the US is doing. US gets bombed, they attack terrorists. Civilians get bommed, they attack US troops.
  
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