Iraq had no WMD, no ties to Al-Qaeda, & no ties to 9/11 - Page 3

Jin-Roh · 10-12-2005, 11:26 AM

A change in foreign policy would cause dissent among those who support it [the majority of Republicans]?

Sgt>Stackem · 10-12-2005, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Pyro

It is like being best friends with someone for 20 years...then they go and murder your mother...USA under Bush is undeserving of blind following. Canada is with America whenever they need it, but not when it is for stupid reasons like a war in iraq or vietnam.

I would have to disagree with that statement, what did Canada offer when Katrina happened? the equivalent of a couple of blankets and a thermos of hot coffee. It is sad but I think the relation between our two countries has changed more in the last three years more than ever, it is for the worst

newt. · 10-12-2005, 01:21 PM

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thats retarded, terrorists didnt appear in iraq until the coalition invaded. if we wanted to make a stand we should have flooded afghanistan and pakistan with troops instead of entering the wrong country. who says the US has a handle on terrorism. there is nothing you can do to prevent a terrorist attack. anyone could make any kind of attack anywhere and at anytime. what message have we sent to radical islam that wasnt said before? osama hasnt been caught and there hasnt been any justice for what happened on 9/11. we just wasted a shit load of money and lost over a thousand troops. GG us.

by eliminating radicals who teach their kids to become bombers we save alot of people. you make it sound like terrorism didn't appear till the americans had "landed" oOo:

I specifically said that terrorists didnt appear in iraq until the coalition arrived, which is true dont you think? there werent suicide bombings and beheadings before we got there.

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what the fuck? lol thats just retarded talk, go die somewhere

1080jibber · 10-12-2005, 01:59 PM

[quote="Sgt>Stackem":3d84b]

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Originally Posted by Pyro

It is like being best friends with someone for 20 years...then they go and murder your mother...USA under Bush is undeserving of blind following. Canada is with America whenever they need it, but not when it is for stupid reasons like a war in iraq or vietnam.

I would have to disagree with that statement, what did Canada offer when Katrina happened? the equivalent of a couple of blankets and a thermos of hot coffee. It is sad but I think the relation between our two countries has changed more in the last three years more than ever, it is for the worst[/quote:3d84b]I so sick of this shit, "what has other countrys done for us?" In stead of focusing on when other countrys didnt do, try to focus on what your own government didnt do

This is what our government did to help with Katrina, [url:3d84b]http://www.psepc.gc.ca/publications/emergency/em_pub002_e.asp#2[/url:3d84b] (fucking google much?)

Sgt>Stackem · 10-12-2005, 02:34 PM

I guess that just shows the difference between countries. When the tsunami hit the US sent almost 1 billion dollars and we caught shit for not doing enough, so in comparision the hurrican relief is small potatos http://www.usaid.gov/locations/asia_near_east/tsunami/

Pyro · 10-12-2005, 03:07 PM

Economically, we are not the same, and we did help out, and it seems we helped out quicker than your own president.

We help you, you help us...helping out with the tsunami has nothing to do with USA-Canada relations.

Too say all we did was "give blankets and coffee" is fucking ignorant. I helped out with my own fucking money more than that one thing and to fucking say thats all Canada did makes you someone undeserving of living in either of these two countries.

Jin-Roh · 10-12-2005, 03:19 PM

[Not directed toward anyone in particular except those who whine and complain in times of crisis or disaster]
I agree with jibber. However, you're still trying to put the blame on someone or something else by focusing on what your own government didn't do. That doesn't help. One question I think should be noticed: "Does your country rely on another to help with a disaster?" If not, then perhaps your country is doing fine overall. If so, then maybe you should contact your representative, senator, or someone with enough guts to listen to one citizen and act. Citizens need to stop complaining about another country or their own. About how they are doing a shitty job. Their job is to just overall to protect and serve you. If they aren't doing that, then get involved. Get off your ass and make an influence on others. The kind of action I am refering to is the kind that will significantly change the current state of a nation, not just a few hudred, gradual steps that will take a Presidents whole time in office to complete.

So, if someone who is against the current foreign policy, they need to get together with some political giants and find an effective way to convince the man in office to change it with a compromise. Where each side wins.

I don't even see why we have "sides". No wonder America is doing it's best. We are so divided that I wouldn't be surprised if civil war broke out if more people were far more aggressive. This country is divided because people treat everything like a competitive game.

Sgt>Stackem · 10-12-2005, 04:03 PM

the real truth is there shouldnt have been any problems with Katrina if the idiots left when it was a mandatory evacuation

Pyro · 10-12-2005, 04:05 PM

[quote="Sgt>Stackem":4b8bd]the real truth is there shouldnt have been any problems with Katrina if the idiots left when it was a mandatory evacuation[/quote:4b8bd]

Sgt>Stackem doesn't care about black people.

1080jibber · 10-12-2005, 04:18 PM

[quote=Pyro]

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Originally Posted by "Sgt>Stackem":60bd9

the real truth is there shouldnt have been any problems with Katrina if the idiots left when it was a mandatory evacuation

Sgt>Stackem doesn't care about black people.[/quote:60bd9]lol biggrin:

Coleman · 10-12-2005, 04:31 PM

[quote=Pyro]

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Originally Posted by "Sgt>Stackem":2777c

the real truth is there shouldnt have been any problems with Katrina if the idiots left when it was a mandatory evacuation

Sgt>Stackem doesn't care about black people.[/quote:2777c] ban: plzdie:

ninty · 10-12-2005, 04:34 PM

[quote="Sgt>Stackem":b7537][quote=Pyro]
It is like being best friends with someone for 20 years...then they go and murder your mother...USA under Bush is undeserving of blind following. Canada is with America whenever they need it, but not when it is for stupid reasons like a war in iraq or vietnam.[/quote]

I would have to disagree with that statement, what did Canada offer when Katrina happened? the equivalent of a couple of blankets and a thermos of hot coffee. It is sad but I think the relation between our two countries has changed more in the last three years more than ever, it is for the worst[/quote:b7537]

Canada sent three warships a coast guard vessel and three helicopters to provide humanitarian aid to the people of the hurricane.

[url="http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2005/09/02/Canadian_ships_to_louisiana20050902.html"]http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national ... 50902.html[/url]

In addition, there were also a number of SAR teams that went down. One I remember specifically was a Vancouver SAR team who was the first one of anybody from any country to go to this certain area. They rescued many people.

http://www.vancouver.ca/usar/

This is in addition to the millions of dollars in aid.

In the future, I would suggest some research before hand would be a good idea.

In response to the 1 billion not being enough, it was only after that people started saying things, that the US increased their aid to 1 billion. Initially, their contribution was much smaller. Smaller than Canada pledged. This is why there was an uproar.

And most of the people caught in NO during the hurricane were poor. Where are they supposed to go? How are they supposed to get anywhere? Walk to Houston?

Sgt>Stackem · 10-13-2005, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ninty

And most of the people caught in NO during the hurricane were poor. Where are they supposed to go? How are they supposed to get anywhere? Walk to Houston?

that is the lamest excuse to come out of the media, if you are told "get the fuck out or you will die" and you say "I aint be gotten a car" then you walk. Live or die they had a choice. On top of that I dont think we should waste the govts money (AKA my money) to rebuilt most of NO. If you want to live below sealevel on the coast then it is up to you to pay for it. To restore NO is fine but just the parts above sea level like it was long ago. There is no reason the people that work the ports cant commute to work rather than live in houses below sea level. You know it will happen again, right after the re-building is done

ninty · 10-13-2005, 01:11 PM

I wou;dn't know, I don't watch the news.

The hurricane is probably a few hundred miles wide. I highly doubt someone could walk that in a matter of days, let alone someone with no food or water.

Bush has already said that they will rebuild the city.

Pyro · 10-13-2005, 01:16 PM

[quote="Sgt>Stackem":81be2]

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Originally Posted by ninty

And most of the people caught in NO during the hurricane were poor. Where are they supposed to go? How are they supposed to get anywhere? Walk to Houston?

that is the lamest excuse to come out of the media, if you are told "get the fuck out or you will die" and you say "I aint be gotten a car" then you walk. Live or die they had a choice. On top of that I dont think we should waste the govts money (AKA my money) to rebuilt most of NO. If you want to live below sealevel on the coast then it is up to you to pay for it. To restore NO is fine but just the parts above sea level like it was long ago. There is no reason the people that work the ports cant commute to work rather than live in houses below sea level. You know it will happen again, right after the re-building is done[/quote:81be2]

Even the hurricane couldn't make new orleans look worse off than Detriot.