[MrLevinstein]

Most ricers arnt wiggers because wiggers spend to much on bling bling to soup up a 4 cyl.

I hate wiggers

I hate lazy minorities, that waste tax payers money. Please If you want to waste my money bitch dont use it to pay your cell phone bill to call your babys mama.

Whew, that was all pent up. Noctis prolly wanted to say it but cant. Freedom of speech my cock. White people dont get a reach around when it comes to talking about blacks. We just have to sit there and take it.

Whew that was pent up.

[Tripper]

Originally Posted by MrLevinstein

Whew, that was all pent up. Noctis prolly wanted to say it but cant. Freedom of speech my cock. White people dont get a reach around when it comes to talking about blacks. We just have to sit there and take it.

Whew that was pent up.

*Sighs*

Blame your forefathers for treating black people like shit for the past 250 or so years.

[Tripper]

EDIT: Errr......Wrong thread....Sowwy!

[Dr. Deleto]

Originally Posted by Tripper

*Sighs*

Blame your forefathers for treating black people like shit for the past 250 or so years.

Oh please. My forefathers were Irish immigrants who were FORCED into the civil war upon entering this country. Yet I am still lumped into the group that is supposed to take shit off blacks and not give any back. If you really want to bring up forefathers, then lets talk of these same black people's forefathers who were in fact the ones that sold the slaves to the white men. Yes, that's right. But in the end, blacks sing the praises of the strong african man who is his "brother", even though these same people are the children of the same men that sold them into slavery, but my ancestors who died fighting to free them, even though they had just entered this country, are rascist peices of shit in the black man's eyes.

not to start a flame, but I speak my mind where I please. My family had nothing to do with slavery yet I am still thrown into the same group as the ones whose familys did. I think today's society as a whole needs to understand that all whites are not former slave owners.

[Tripper]

[quote="Dr. Deleto":3e0e6]

Originally Posted by Tripper

*Sighs*

Blame your forefathers for treating black people like shit for the past 250 or so years.

Oh please. My forefathers were Irish immigrants who were FORCED into the civil war upon entering this country. Yet I am still lumped into the group that is supposed to take shit off blacks and not give any back. If you really want to bring up forefathers, then lets talk of these same black people's forefathers who were in fact the ones that sold the slaves to the white men. Yes, that's right. But in the end, blacks sing the praises of the strong african man who is his "brother", even though these same people are the children of the same men that sold them into slavery, but my ancestors who died fighting to free them, even though they had just entered this country, are rascist peices of shit in the black man's eyes.

not to start a flame, but I speak my mind where I please. My family had nothing to do with slavery yet I am still thrown into the same group as the ones whose familys did. I think today's society as a whole needs to understand that all whites are not former slave owners.[/quote:3e0e6]

K, firstly - Was I fucking talking to you? No. So don't fucking take it like I was personally attacking you...You're Irish? Good for you you drunken, flat-foot, potato eating, mother-fucker.

Now, to combat your ignorance:

You do realise that it was a VERY small percentage of slaves that were sold by their own people, right?
This is a typical comment made by those who can't handle that their ancestors fucked up.

You're right - not all White American families are former slave owners....And I'm not saying your family is at all....But a shit load of them are... There's also a shit load of white americans who are directly related to, or just plain are, racists from the segregation era, 40 years ago.....

GG Treating black people like shit for 250 years and then whining like fucking babies when faced with a double standard that PALES in comparison.

Don't even fucking start with that Emancipation Proclomation bullshit. "OMG TEH UNIONS MAIN MISSION WAS TO FREE THE BLAX!"

That's BULLSHIT. The Emancipation Proclomation = 1863. Civil War started = 1860.


BTW....I've completed a year of African American History - I'm not talking out of my ass here.

[Dr. Deleto]

Originally Posted by Tripper

K, firstly - Was I fucking talking to you? No. So don't fucking take it like I was personally attacking you...You're Irish? Good for you you drunken, flat-foot, potato eating, mother-fucker.


This is a typical comment made by those who can't handle that their ancestors fucked up.

Who exactly were you talking to here Mr. smart guy? Last I checked when you say white people it means me too. dumbass.

and then you go back on yourself and say my ancestors did in fact fuck up. contradiction in it's best form. 1 year of African American studies huh. Well good for you. When you get out into the real world let me know how you like being summed up as a rasict because of your skin color alone, then come back here and argue this point. I've taken years of this same whiney bullshit from blacks and the people too ignorant or stupid to go against what they say.

The fact that my ancestors had absolutely nothing to do with slavery, yet at least some black people's did should be enough to prove my point, but somehow you shrug it off as "Only SOME black people did that". well check what I said there genious. NONE of my family did. I'm not remotely rascist, and neither is my family. We respect others, unlike you silly fucks who blame everything under the sun, except some of the main things that started the problem.

Lastly, read the last part of my post there Gonzo.

[quote:32eaa]not to start a flame, but I speak my mind where I please.[/quote:32eaa]

You bitching at me for doing exactly what I should be allowed to do anyways only proves your silly little ideals are all fucked up. You are arguing a point by going against the very meaning of it. What is racism? finding a certain ethnic group, calling them names, fitting them into stereotypes, and looking down on them for being themselves?


[quote:32eaa]You're Irish? Good for you you drunken, flat-foot, potato eating, mother-fucker. [/quote:32eaa]

But your so enlightened because you take the black man's side huh. gimme a fuckin break. You'll eventually see my point, because your obviously white and WILL have to deal with the same shit we all do, and for what? For being just that, WHITE.

[Ferich]

hake: This is retarded.

You'll be suprised at how much all these comments on Americans being racists and what not are pissing me off. Because they're utter bullshit.

Slavery was pinpointed to only the South, it wasn't practiced in the North..so how does that tie in every American's ancestors to Slavery? Also another fact is, a boom in Immigration to this Country did not start till after the Civil War, in the early 1900's...and most of those families were kept in Ghetto's and lived side by side with other minorties at the time.

[Drew]

Originally Posted by Ferich

hake: This is retarded.

You'll be suprised at how much all these comments on Americans being racists and what not are pissing me off. Because they're utter bullshit.

Slavery was pinpointed to only the South, it wasn't practiced in the North..so how does that tie in every American's ancestors to Slavery? Also another fact is, a boom in Immigration to this Country did not start till after the Civil War, in the early 1900's...and most of those families were kept in Ghetto's and lived side by side with other minorties at the time.

I've already made this point, but if I'm going to be held accountable for the actions of an ancestor that I might have somehow had (even though both sides of my family came over in the late 1800s from Germany), then I fully expect for any African American to be prepared to take shit from me, considering they could very well have Egyptian ancestors who enslaved my Hebrew ancestors and treated them in a much more brutal manner.

I'm a bit disappointed that you won't scratch past the surface, Tripper. But there's your double standard right there. People who share my skin color abused people who shared their skin color for 250 years. And while slavery is never, ever humane, the treatment that blacks received as slaves was infinitely more so than the treatment that Hebrews received. But I don't hate or discriminate against blacks because it was black people that enslaved white people for thousands of years, do I? So what gives them the right? Nothing. Fuck that.

[MrLevinstein]

When I say lazy minorities, Im not saying the entire black race, Im saying the inner city blacks who think that way?

And if you say "You should at least respect them"

Respect them when they talk about raping the white wman and fuck the white man I aint gonna listen to that shit.

My family had No connections to slavery my relatives wernt in this country until 1920.

Then where is the hate for the blacks? Usually in family, one person finds them lazy and the rest hate themm too and it spreads. Ive met a few black kids that I like but Ive me some with some big mouths that never shut up.

I refuse to be Trent Lotted anymore.

[Short Hand]

Originally Posted by Tripper

*Sighs*

Blame your forefathers for treating black people like shit for the past 250 or so years.

I have always felt odd about this ? I thought the Whiteman paid back the blacks in blood (Civil War).

[Chango]

[quote="Short Hand":e4c7a]

Originally Posted by Tripper

*Sighs*

Blame your forefathers for treating black people like shit for the past 250 or so years.

I have always felt odd about this ? I thought the Whiteman paid back the blacks in blood (Civil War).[/quote:e4c7a]

On that note i'll jump into this thread

All the Civil War did was free them from slavery, what everyone seems to be forgetting is treatment after the war. The treatment of blacks after they were "free" wasn't any better then when they were slaves, in some cases it was worse (especially in the south.) The war really didn't help anything, blacks were still treated as second class citizens and were now faced with a terrorist group stopping whatever freedoms they earned.

Even if your forefathers had nothing to do with slavery, it doesn't mean that they treated blacks as equal, or even tried to help them become equal, most likely they just helped contribute to keeping them unequal (just because they lived with them, doesn't mean they liked them.)

Noctis, you keep bringing up Egyptians and them keeping Hebrews as slaves and blacks being just as guilty, there are several things that distinguish that slavery and the slavery in America (though its nice that you realize that the Egyptians were black.) For one, the main proof that the Hebrews were slaves there is written in a religious tome, sure you can prove that Hebrews were in Egypt via bones and genetic material, but there is no definitive proof that they were slaves, for all we know they could've second class citizens. Two, When the Greeks invaded Egypt they slowly stopped the spread of the Egyptians genes, thus for the most part wiping them (this also starting the belief that Egyptians were White.)

Originally Posted by MrLevinstein

When I say lazy minorities, Im not saying the entire black race, Im saying the inner city blacks who think that way?

And if you say "You should at least respect them"

Respect them when they talk about raping the white wman and fuck the white man I aint gonna listen to that shit.

Thats nice, you're fine with lazy majorities, but minorities(specifically blacks) you have a problem with. I don't know what blacks are saying "rape white women," you're probably just responding to a stereotype started by White Supremacists. However the "fuck the white man" comments are just from passed down hatred from the treatment from whites during the post civil war and slavery. Its not any better then racists, but there's at least a reason for it.

Originally Posted by Tripper

You do realise that it was a VERY small percentage of slaves that were sold by their own people, right?
This is a typical comment made by those who can't handle that their ancestors fucked up.

Just to further elaborate on this, it (for the most part) wasn't there own people, but other tribes that they were at war with that wanted an easy way to get rid of their enemies.

And Tripper, its nice that you're trying to help, but you're going about this the wrong way, flaming people isn't going to help your arguement.


As for affirmative action and other double standards that you guys are bitching about, they will only exist as long as they are necessary, believe it or not, prejudice people still exist as long as they exist(or until a majority of them disappear) those double standards will still be needed. While they are rather extreme, America has matured enough in regards to race for them to disappear. And believe it or not, being a minority isn't as easy as you assume, even with those "double standards".

[ShagNasty]

blacks are more racest than whites now days. and they love the race card. you get in a fight with one they say you called them the N word even if you didnt. its a cop out. and who said there is no evedance of jews being slaves? thats a dumb comment, the same for blacks then. you didnt live back then prove they were just some one wrote they were. SARCASM

[MrLevinstein]

Are you fucking joking me, Chango?

When I talk about lazy minorities I mean Minorities. Includes spanish, and whomever is not part of the majority.

As Noctis said the treatment of The Jews over the past 2000 yeares has been horrific compared to slavery is North American Colonies. Last time I looked The Jews wernt looking for a check every month just because the white man kept them down. After these times Jews were eager to regain and enter society again as helping instead of hurting the economy. I respect jews because after 3 or 4 attemped Genocides, they wont take a handout.

"Listen Mr. Smith, we're sorry for slavery do you want a check every month courtisy of Uncle Sam? Here fill out these"

IF you say I'm lieing go to a local city and spend a day there, Highschool dropout rate is enormous and so is unemployment.

[Snuff]

The only point I have to make in this discussion is about the retrobution
pay. Doesn't matter if your ancestors had slaves or not. Nobody in this day and age is owed payment for what happened before our lifetime. I'm quite sure some of my ancestors probably had slaves. I don't feel I owe anyone shit for that. It is a different time and world now. This country gives out enough free handouts. My answer is make good choices in life, get an education, and get a fucking job if a person wants to get paid. One more thing, a double standered is a double standered. It doesn't matter who it benefits, it is still wrong and there is no justification to change that......

[Chango]

Originally Posted by MrLevinstein

Are you fucking joking me, Chango?

When I talk about lazy minorities I mean Minorities. Includes spanish, and whomever is not part of the majority.

OK lets break this down

Originally Posted by MrLevinstein

When I say lazy minorities, Im not saying the entire black race, Im saying the inner city blacks who think that way?

Originally Posted by Chango

Thats nice, you're fine with lazy majorities, but minorities(specifically blacks) you have a problem with

You said when minorities, and then you mentioned blacks specifically, not any other minority, just blacks, not spanish, not mexicans, just blacks. And again you seem to only have a problem with lazy minorities, not lazy majorities (you do know what a majority is right?)

Originally Posted by MrLevinstein

As Noctis said the treatment of The Jews over the past 2000 yeares has been horrific compared to slavery is North American Colonies. Last time I looked The Jews wernt looking for a check every month just because the white man kept them down. After these times Jews were eager to regain and enter society again as helping instead of hurting the economy. I respect jews because after 3 or 4 attemped Genocides, they wont take a handout.

I said nothing disagreeing with what Noctis said about Jews being treated unfairly for 2000 years. What I was disagreeing with was what Noctis said about using the Egyptians enslaving the Hebrews as an arguement against American slavery of blacks. Stop trying to put words in my mouth or reread my post, you obviously missed quite abit.

Originally Posted by Shagnasty

and who said there is no evedance of jews being slaves? thats a dumb comment, the same for blacks then. you didnt live back then prove they were just some one wrote they were. SARCASM

Legal Documentation and in some cases pictures is more evidence than stories written down to fuel a religion.


And who brought up reparations?