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Default Sniper really caught this time? - 10-24-2002, 05:58 AM

Two Men Arrested in Sniper Case

FREDERICK, Md. (AP) - Two men wanted for questioning in the wave of deadly sniper attacks were arrested early Thursday after they were found sleeping in their car at a Maryland rest stop, authorities said.

The arrests came amid a flurry of activity in the investigation of the attacks that have killed 10 people and wounded three others since Oct. 2.

The break occurred hours after authorities descended on a home in Tacoma, Wash., that was believed to hold clues important to the investigation. They then issued a nationwide alert for the car, spotted by a motorist and an attendant at the rest stop.

Members of the sniper task force arrested the men without incident at 3:19 a.m. off I-70 in Frederick County, Md., about 50 miles northwest of the nation's capital, said Larry Scott, an agent for the Federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms.

The men were arrested in a car that matched a description police gave at a midnight press briefing, said Maj. Greg Shipley, a spokesman for the Maryland State Police.

``I don't know what their reaction was,'' Shipley said. ``It wasn't an aggressive one.''

At a midnight news conference, Montgomery County Police Chief Charles Moose said John Allen Muhammad, 42, was being sought for questioning in the slayings and called him ``armed and dangerous.'' Muhammad was said to be traveling with a juvenile, identified by a law enforcement source as 17-year-old Lee Malvo.

The relationship between Muhammad, who also goes by the name John Allen Williams, and the teen was not clear, but several newspapers reported that Malvo is Muhammad's stepson.

A law enforcement source close to the investigation told The Associated Press that ``I'm confident that these are indeed the people'' sought in the killings.

``The evidence is all there and because of things we've received in the communications,'' the source said on the condition on anonymity. ``It fits together with evidence they've collected in the last couple days.''

Several federal sources told the Seattle Times that Muhammad and Malvo may have been motivated by anti-American sentiments in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks. Both were known to speak sympathetically about the men who hijacked jetliners over Washington, New York and Pennsylvania, the sources said.

But neither man was believed to be associated with the al-Qaida terrorist network, sources said.

The Times reported that Muhammed was stationed at Fort Lewis outside Tacoma in the 1980s, served in the Gulf War and was later stationed at Fort Ord, Calif. Malvo, who authorities said is a citizen of Jamaica, attended high school in Bellingham, Wash., last year.

Shipley said the men were being transported to Montgomery County, where the investigation is based.

The witnesses at the rest stop called police at 1 a.m. after they spotted the men sleeping inside one of the cars sought in the investigation - a blue 1990 Chevrolet Caprice.

Moose had cautioned that it shouldn't be assumed Muhammad is involved in any of the shootings that have stricken the Washington area since Oct. 2.

On Wednesday, authorities opened two new avenues in the investigation: FBI agents spent hours at the Tacoma home, eventually carting away a tree stump from the yard and other potential evidence in a U-Haul truck.

And in Montgomery, Ala., Mayor Bobby Bright said federal authorities were investigating whether a fatal shooting there last month was linked to the sniper.

Bright said a caller to the sniper investigation tip line apparently claimed responsibility for the sniper shootings and the Montgomery shooting Sept. 21. One woman was killed and another wounded.

A law enforcement source told The (Baltimore) Sun that police found a piece of paper at the scene of the Alabama shooting that bore Malvo's fingerprints. Police then traced Malvo to the Tacoma home, where he had been living with Williams, the paper said.

Late Wednesday night, Moose held a media briefing here he issued his latest cryptic message in his ongoing dialogue with the sniper.

``You have indicated that you want us to do and say certain things. You've asked us to say, 'We have caught the sniper like a duck in a noose.' We understand that hearing us say this is important to you,'' Moose said.

He also expressed frustration at the failure to make contact despite the sniper's repeated attempts through ``notes, indirect messages and calls to other jurisdictions.'' He asked the sniper to call.

A Fort Lewis spokesman did not return a call for comment on whether Muhammad was stationed on the base.

Felix Strozier, who ran a karate school with Williams in 1997 and 1998, said Williams told him he had been in the Army but did not say where.

Pfc. Chris Waters, a Fort Lewis soldier who lives across the street from the Tacoma home, said he called police after hearing gunshots in the neighborhood nearly every day in January.

``It sounded like a high-powered rifle such as an M-16,'' he said. ``Never more than three shots at a time. Pow. Pow. Pow.''

Dean Resop, who lives a block away, said quite a few tenants had been in and out of the home.

``Makes you want to watch your neighbors closer,'' said Resop, who has lived in the area seven years.

FBI agents also visited Bellingham High School, 90 miles north of Seattle, on Wednesday. Mayor Mark Asmundson told the Bellingham Herald the agents were apparently seeking information on a male teenager who once attended the school and an older man. He said both left the area about nine months ago.

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Default 10-24-2002, 05:59 AM

Yeah I heard about this but I dont know what to think. eek:
  
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Default 10-24-2002, 06:00 AM

Damn dude i just posted this and already have a response
  
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Default 10-24-2002, 08:52 AM

Sounds like the cautght the motherfucker (excuse the language). I hope he is the guy. I don't believe in the death sentence. but I do think they should take him out and use him for sniper practice(see who can come the closest without hitting him.)
  
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Default 10-24-2002, 11:36 AM

if its him a brother is finely a serial killer. not just whites any more. and i know there were other races who were serial killers. but as far as i remember no black ones.
  
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Default 10-24-2002, 11:47 AM

The just said on a local radio station here in Belligham, that a guy that was trying to get a asssualt charge dropped a few months ago, told the police about these two and said they were planning some sort of "terrorist" activity.
The police passed the info onto the FBI.
  
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Default 10-24-2002, 11:55 AM

George Banks was a black mass murderer. He shot and killed thirteen people using a Colt AR-15. Most of those killed were either his girlfriends or their children whom he fathered.

You're right tho...the vast majority of serial murder is carried out by white males.

http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial10/banks/index.htm


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Default 10-24-2002, 12:06 PM

i wouldnt call him a serial killer,mass yes serial no.
  
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Default 10-24-2002, 12:17 PM

Maybe the sniper payed them money to get the .223 bullets and the rifle so the sniper is using them as pawns so they would think it is them but there not...?
  
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Default 10-24-2002, 12:18 PM

Yes, you're right.

A serial killer is someone who kills, takes a break, kills again, takes another break, kills again, and so on. He likes killing and will continue to do so as he sees fit. He tends to have some pattern to his peculiarities and his murders will be recognized as part of a group of homicides.

A mass murderer is someone who kills a bunch of people in one specific, ultra-violent event (like Banks did).

Either way, the two groups include some sick, twisted dudes.


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Default 10-24-2002, 12:21 PM

thats for sure.
  
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Default 10-24-2002, 01:39 PM

Oh im pretty damn sure its this guy, and when was the last time you saw a black serial killer? eek:


  
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Default 10-24-2002, 01:44 PM

[quote="=[DOA]=VonMeyer":8b4bc]Damn dude i just posted this and already have a response[/quote:8b4bc]

Hehe, gotta do something before school cool:
  
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Default 10-24-2002, 02:25 PM

hopefully it is the guys. they're sniper wannabes
  
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Default 10-24-2002, 02:30 PM

Ex army veteran. Nice rifle btw would love to take that thing deer hunting or bear huntin
  
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