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				Chechen Terrorists Kill Hostage in Moscow Theater Siege - 
            
          
		
		
				
		
				10-24-2002, 11:50 AM
			
			
			
		  
		
	
                
            	
		
		
		MOSCOW (Reuters) - Chechen separatist guerrillas killed one woman as they seized a Russian theater and threatened to shoot or blow up 700 hostages Thursday unless Russia pulled its troops out of their homeland.  
 
Police said the group of about 40, including masked women with explosives strapped to their bodies, had shot a woman who tried to escape as they burst into the theater Wednesday night.  
 
 
The rebels, who called themselves a suicide squad, made threats on a Chechen Web site and via hostages to blow up the theater or begin killing captives unless their demands were met.  
 
Sergei Ignatchenko, a spokesman for the FSB security service, said a body wheeled out of the theater late Thursday was that of a young woman who had not been identified. "She was killed yesterday as she tried to escape during the takeover," he told NTV television. Officials said some 60 foreigners were among the captives.  
 
 
Russian President Vladimir Putin,who rose to power on pledges three years ago to boost public security, said the main task was to secure the hostages' safe release.  
 
He said information from the rebels' representatives confirmed that "the terrorist act was planned abroad."  
 
Governments around the world denounced the hostage-taking and called on the world community to unite against such acts of terror.  
 
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These Chenchen punks need to die. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		I heard something about 2 explosions this morning.  Anyone know anything about that? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				10-24-2002, 12:48 PM
			
			
			
		  
		
	
                
            	
		
		
		More individuals driven to desperate measures because of invasion of their land. hake: 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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 Man, you really opened Pandora's Box. 
 
You do have have valid point though, it's easy to label someone as terrorist when you don't know the reason behind the action.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				10-24-2002, 12:53 PM
			
			
			
		  
		
	
                
            	
		
		
		not the best way to get me on their side 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		There are right and wrong ways to go about things.  Taking civilial hostages and murder are not the right way. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				not the best way to get me on their side 
			
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Im sure thats top of their list of priorities getting you on their side.
 
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 Agreed, you dont get many people in the world community on your side my murdering a woman, and taking hostages.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		[quote="Low spark":d0cb2] 
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 Man, you really opened Pandora's Box. [/quote:d0cb2]
 
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		Fuck it...I'll open it up even more. mad:  
 
People do shit for a reason, they aren't making huge decisions on a whim.  Now you must say to yourself, "What would drive someone to be so desperate as to be willing to blow the shit outta themselves to send a message?"  Would you do this?  No, you are comfortable in your house, with your pc and your food and your liberties.   
 
Now imagine your personal freedoms are gone.  You are constantly harassed, bullied, see your people killed on their land, in their homes, children, women, men, old folks...whoever.  Then watch the news and see that nothing is being done to the people who are doing this to you.  I bet life is pretty fucked up if you see that every day.  Then you get approached about how you can make a difference, you can make the world see the real truth, you can bring the justice to those who have done this to you.  Sure, at first you aren't really willing, then you see your wife, daughter, cousin die..and it doesn't sound so bad, it's the only way you can see yourself getting revenge. 
 
Is what terrorists do right?  No.  Does killing women and children make things right?  No.  Is killing someone in such a manner murder?  Yes.  But is killing women and children with cruise missiles, and bombs not murder?  You tell me. 
 
In this game no one is innocent, and no one is right. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		The woman was also beaten (doctors found many bruises) before being killed when trying to escape, stupid terrorist fuckers. 
 
If you use terrorism to further your cause, no matter how just it may be, you'll get no support from me. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		[quote="Pfc.Green":30823]. 
 
If you use terrorism to further your cause, no matter how just it may be, you'll get no support from me.[/quote:30823] 
 
 
I'd watch it Green... Terrorism comes in many forms..... it has been said before 'one man's terrorist is another mans freedom fighter'. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		Terrorism is the last resort of radicals that dont have enough support to do things the right way.  Its Cowardice.  If they really were brave, why dont they take on the russian military?  If they were going to die for their cause anyway, why take civilians with them, why not show true dedication and strike a valid target.  Now the world sympathizes with russia and isnt interested in the reasons.  Instead of gaining support they lose credibility.  Rightfully so in my opinion. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		Chechnya has been part of Russia since 1530. 
 
Chechnya is the source of most of the violence in the caucasus, also, most of the caucasus people are screwed up. 
 
Fuck the chechens. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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