Cheat Protection - A Realized Failure

MPowell1944 · **Cheat Protection - A Realized Failure -** 11-14-2002, 01:43 PM

i was kind of excited to hear that sv_pure was being included with the add-on. hell, it would keep little fairies away from the good servers. Now, i know how sv_pure works. It blocks .pk3 files that the server isn't hosting. yes. but does it even think to check for uncompressed folders? and even at this.

now, even the stupidest person would realize how easy it easy to fool sv_pure. I put it to the test this morning, and totally bypassed a pure server. (only a test. not to continually use online. mmkay).

If you would like to know how it can be done (a better way that uncompressed folders), send me a PM. maybe we can work together to stop this from happening. Since i easily realized a bypass of the pure server, im sure others have figured it out as well. The end for cheaters is near. Little shits.

Post your thoughts here.

Mr_nStuff · 11-14-2002, 02:19 PM

well one thing the sv_pure will help.. is it should keep people from altering the pakx.pk3 files..

and keep in mind there were and will be mods for Spearhead that do neito things like disable Force Models

with disabling force models and protecting the original pk3 files. you are one step closer to avoiding thoughs cheaters using the imfamous skins that show up through walls..

Sindonesia · 11-14-2002, 02:37 PM

[quote="Mr_nStuff":d2f46]well one thing the sv_pure will help.. is it should keep people from altering the pakx.pk3 files..

and keep in mind there were and will be mods for Spearhead that do neito things like disable Force Models

with disabling force models and protecting the original pk3 files. you are one step closer to avoiding thoughs cheaters using the imfamous skins that show up through walls..[/quote:d2f46]

I haven't played Moh for about a month before the expansion and when I came back I heard about these skins that you can see through the walls. So now more then ever I don't like force models. I didn't mind people using them before but now that changes everything.

MPowell1944 · 11-14-2002, 03:19 PM

well to be dead honest with all of you. disabling forcemodels does nothing. i know from experience. All it does it disable the cvar, cg_forceModel. but think about this. what if cg_forceModel wasn't cg_forceModel anymore. disabled cg_forceModel would then be useless, b/c that wouldn't be the cvar's title anymore. PM me if you would like more info on how this is done. there might be a way to override this problem. thanks

Hans-AlbinVonReitzenstein · 11-14-2002, 03:24 PM

Maybe someone can make a mod that disables this? Im not worried about them

MPowell1944 · 11-14-2002, 03:28 PM

me neither. there is too much going on in the game, for the ForceModels to actually be useful.

Side Note :

here is some reassuring news. those skins that can be seen thru walls, are called "Chameleon Skins". yes they do work for MOHAA, but here is the good news. They dont work for Spearhead. all you get is a nasty gray/yellow flash on the player.

At least thats one piece of good news.

Hobbs · 11-14-2002, 04:13 PM

Argh.. I dont like the sound of this!!! I dont cheat and i never have but is sv_pure to effect all mods? Cause there are 2 things i cant stand in SH... 1. the crosshairs and 2.the scopes. Will this also effect these? I dont really care about any of the other mods. But these two can completely effect the the game 4 me!

Benman · 11-14-2002, 04:20 PM

Hmmm, well if a server does not support the same scopes.pk3 files as you have, you won't be able to connect. That's what comes with sv_pure. ed:

¤ · 11-14-2002, 04:25 PM

Interesting dilemma sv_pure brings with it;

Are you willing to sacrifice the benifits of game mods in order to stop some cheats from working?

Really; isn't that letting the cheaters win? They're keeping you from playing the game you want, without even having to do anything.

Quasi-evil · 11-14-2002, 04:36 PM

On top of that the real hackers will find a way around the anit-cheats and sv_pure anyway. So that just leaves the anti-cheaters out in the cold for the uncheating mods. Best way to judge when the sv_pure has been broken is to watch those clans (we all know who they are) when there servers go to sv_pure then stop playing on pure servers because you know that its been broke. lol

Argon · 11-14-2002, 05:20 PM

[quote="Quasi-evil":0b988]On top of that the real hackers will find a way around the anit-cheats and sv_pure anyway. So that just leaves the anti-cheaters out in the cold for the uncheating mods. Best way to judge when the sv_pure has been broken is to watch those clans (we all know who they are) when there servers go to sv_pure then stop playing on pure servers because you know that its been broke. lol[/quote:0b988]

Yep they have entire cheater websites and forums to get around this stuff. Its kinda like U. S. government. I have been a victim of these "no wall hacks" and "no fog" hacks and it really sucks, especially when its a ladder match.

Lets hope MOH doesn't turn into CS. mwah:

[SaS]Sgt.Major_Rock · 11-14-2002, 09:17 PM

I cant seem to get set sv_pure 1 to work. I set up a dedicated server for Spearhead with the new patched dedicated server and it will still let me in with pak files on my machine that are not on the server.

Star85 · 11-14-2002, 09:21 PM

not everyone will know how to do it, i mean some people dont know how to show their own score biggrin:

Totenkopf · 11-14-2002, 10:24 PM

[img]http://members.demonination.com/files/argon.dvowned.jpg[/img]

Sweet sig..the only thing I think would make it funnier is if you had someone saying "hacker".

[513th] Kamil · **hackers can kiss my ass -** 11-14-2002, 10:39 PM

as someone already said, this sv_pure deally will also disable cool mods like scopes, crosshairs, and skins. I always use force models but not to use colorful skins. i use wermacht on axis and airborne on allies cuz it just adds to the realism when the whole team wears the same skin. some retards do go ruin it by wearing like a scientist skin or some thing dumb like that.
ruins the moment if u ask me. whenever i snipe, at longer ranges ur target will hide behind the lines in the scope. i can't aim for shit at longer ranges with the default crosshair or scopes.
sv_pure will give the victory by spoiling everyone's fun. that is their goal and if this option goes is implemented on servers, then the war with hackers that has lasted years will be lost

thank you for your time

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