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[ReFo] T.Olsen · 01-07-2002, 11:07 PM

YAH! no offence but youre computer is rather slow!!!
uprade the comp. instead of getting a cable :-$

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Malarkey · 01-08-2002, 12:52 AM

What is the verdict then cable or upgrade?

Capt_CruncH · 01-08-2002, 01:02 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Malarkey:
What is the verdict then cable or upgrade?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well cable on a crappy comp would still be worse the 56k and a nice comp in my opinion.
I had a 233mhz with dsl for a long time, and i still was a "victim" in every game I played. Once I upgraded I was the "victimizer". I upgraded over time at such a minimal cost too. The only thing original from my original comp is the monitor and a fan that I got aimed at my geforce2.
So in short-
shitty comp + cable = shitty comp with cable

Ydiss · 01-08-2002, 01:40 AM

Capt Crunch has it in one. Upgrade your PC first. I have an average system (Duron 700, 384mb ram), with a lame Voodoo3 gfx card. I have cable.

In a decent server I get between 20-60 ping and still my fps in a fight goes below 15.

So long as your fps is under 25 it's not smooth-to-the-eye gaming, no matter what yer ping is.

Cable can deliver information much faster than 25 fps, but once it hits your CPU and GFX card and they are old, then it slows right up there.

First thing to do is to upgrade cpu and mother board. I'd go for an Athlon 1.2 GHZ with A-bit K7 motherboard (£200 for the two, you won't need to upgrade for a long time.

Then buy the generic geforce 2 32mb gfx card, then buy more ram.

Then get cable, if you can.

Just upgrading your motherboard and cpu will deliver much better performance than before, but you do need a decent gfx card also, other-wise it bottle-necks there.

Yeh, it's bloody expensive, but once you have cable you never need to dial up again, can use the internet whenever ya like and can download stuff super-fast.

Everything becomes more fun then, not just MoH.

Also, learn how to build your own PC... it's MUCH cheaper and is really easy (just like lego)

mizat0 · 01-08-2002, 01:52 AM

yeah, even with an internet accelerator most 56ks wont download over 5kb a sec and tweaking your modem doesnt do all that much to lower pings. get the cable.

Capt_CruncH · 01-08-2002, 02:21 AM

actually 1st double your ram, that right there will boost ya alot for cheap. Then when ya get a new motherboard(i bought an amd 800mhz for $85) you just plop in your ram. Then hook up with a new generic geforce.
you could have a decent system for
$19 128mb ram
$85 amd 800mhz
$49(after rebate) Xtasy geforce2 32mb
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$153

Thats pretty cheap for a mid-grade upgrade in my opinion

and if ya need instalation help add another $100

killaman · 01-08-2002, 02:40 AM

Malarkey, although i have a good system i understand your plight.
I have an Athlon 500, 256 RAM, GeForce2 Pro. But still my sytems chokes on MOH. Crazy.

Progress has to go on. But we can be smart with what we get. There are other games out there that will still provide you fun with out the lag problems.
For example Hidden & Dangerous (H&D), H&D2(release summer 2002), Battlefield 1942 (BF1942, release summer 2002 from EA). These games that I know about can be played over 56k very well. I played H&D with my friend on 56k and he was 5000 miles away. If you play locally then it's even better. H&D can be bought for less than $20. It has Coop play with up to 4 players.
H&D2 I think is Coop with up to 6 players.
BF1942 is like MOH but with more action with lots of vehicles (Planes, bombers, tanks,Battleships, Carriers, APCs, AA guns, Submarines) and Coop with 4 players, 64player MP. The one unique thing about Bf though is that nothing is scripted. Its all AI based so each time you play a mission the enemy and the friendlies will do different things, so its got great replay-ability(is that a word?). But then that might eat some CPU cycles off your system.

Both of these games are WWII based and are/will be lots of fun.

MOH is good, but the lack of Coop (provided from developer), Lag (I have DSL), and how graphics intensive it seems to be for what its showing, turns me off a bit. I still play the single player, but it has not turned out the way I had expected it to be.

Anyhow good luck man. BTW a buddy of mine, in London, loved gaming so much that he stopped smoking and drinking and used his new found wealth for games and hardware. just an example of if there is a will there is a way (other than steeling).

good luck.

killaman · 01-08-2002, 02:43 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Malarkey:
What is the verdict then cable or upgrade?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'd say graphics card and cable/DSL.

Manny · 01-08-2002, 02:49 AM

I got it running on my old comp. Pretty slow (low 20's, fps...) in 640, in 512 however it's very well playable. Maybe you haven't tried that...

The Quake III engine was never intended to be used with large, open outdoor environments ...

Capt_CruncH · 01-08-2002, 03:10 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by killaman:
BTW a buddy of mine, in London, loved gaming so much that he stopped smoking and drinking and used his new found wealth for games and hardware. just an example of if there is a will there is a way (other than steeling).<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

for me, i needed a new hobby, so I stopped doing cocaine and got into video games. Thanks to video games im drug-free and have a nice family. My wife hates my hobby but prefers the "new" me.

Capt says Have no fear, weed isnt a drug!!

Malarkey · 01-08-2002, 06:40 AM

I love mohaa, i played the hunt with 20 odd people at a mates and loved it, looking down a sniper at the germans moving a head is great, picking one off now and then or the close quarters with SMGS and grenades flying over head. then u get to the graveyard and the sniping battle kicks off with the allies numerically stronger but a german sniper in the church has picked off two comrades one on each flank. You bolt it into a ditch and rifle a german in the next ditch, you see the 88 and you run to it, yopu are placing the bomb when you here a crack of a rifle and you fall to the ground, only to then rise as a spectator to see the rest of your team track him down and fill him with lead. I love it so much but as alot of you out there i have a 56k. Now my computer isnt that slow or bad.

pentium 3, 450 mhz
128mg ram
no voodo card or updated video card.

my computer is allright on most games like Counter Strike playing with over 20 people is fine, sudden strike and others. Its just mohaa, i dont know if its because of my 56k ( i know people whos 56k works fine for the game), lack of great graphics card but i have all video options on lowest for game or that i need servers that are in england where i am or that its a bad demo and that the final game will be allright.

Im begging you please help me!!!!!!!

Saintholgi · 01-08-2002, 06:43 AM

i do not like mohaa mp so mush because its to like Quake or cs. just rush rush rush ..... maybe with some friends but not on a public server..

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Frost · 01-08-2002, 06:44 AM

Actually your PC is rather slow, a 450mhz is going to be really stressed for this game Ive got a 1.2ghz and I can still see it chug.

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Malarkey · 01-08-2002, 06:58 AM

shit, the only way it is possible for me to get a good game of the game that i love is to spend £40 a month on BT cable.Great i dont know about you lot but i cant afford that and that pisses me off, i wish i could go back to how it used to be with everyone having the same speed computer and all the games are fine for everyone. My PC is about 2 years old, so if i spend £700 on a new computer then in 2 maybe 1 years it will be out of date..... that sucks.Cable is too expensive and because of more people getting it it forces 56kers to get it because they have such a great connection which slows us down because we cant keep up! EA can go and kiss my ass cos they have made a game that only people with loads of money can play and that is gay!SO the only way i can play is probally 30 mins over my mates 3times a week whilst some of you pkasy it all day every day, get rewally good at it because you play it alll the time so if i come to play it i am crap aan gets called crap by people because you kill me in seconds..... great fun. im sorry if im moaning on but its so frustrating trying to play a game when it takes minuters to fire after you pressed the button, i look up and down the servers with objective matches 20 player max but i have to pass them and have to choose 2 player max free for all game.... thats really fun. sorry to all but you just witness a man crack!!!! 'sobs and puts gun to head'

Capt_CruncH · 01-08-2002, 07:32 AM

easy upgrades and cheap...
Double your ram, another 128mb ram will cost about $19-$29us. Also you can get a generic geforce2 32mb video card for $50-$70
56k is fine if you know how to tweak it and join local games, and in the UK most games are local.

[This message has been edited by Capt_CruncH (edited January 08, 2002).]