Hanging It Up

**Hanging It Up -** 05-01-2003, 03:48 PM

I realized this morning after logging onto my laptop here in this hotel, and sitting down to take in the advice and support about the newest maps I have made and came to one conclusion.... there were none.
My work is played by many people across the globe. Those of you who map and map well know what I am talking about. Your work is seen by people in other countries. With all the work that goes into html, pic creation in Photoshop, making the levels PK3s, etc. I find little input and a very small amount of insight.
I got into sending this work out to people so they could enjoy it and I could maybe get some insight into my work through the players eyes. So far I don't even have enough to write on a sugar packet.
This morning has made me realize I must think about hanging it up. After my near death experience I was happy to get back to programming mohaa. But I'm just another mapper to everyone else which makes me expendible. For those who have helped and supported me a BIG THANKS.
Maybe I can get your thoughts on this. If not, then you have answered the question anyway.
-The General of Cobra Cobra Command

Timur the Lame · 05-01-2003, 03:58 PM

I actually don't know what maps you have made but I probably play on them. You have to understand that most people are only in it for themselves and they could give two shits about what a mapper feels. Also you have to udnerstand that some people are assholes and all they will do is sit here a critisize your work even if they don't have a valid point. You can't worry about what everyone thinks. Getting compliments here and there are great but they don't help you become a better mapper. Only you can do that. And, if you hang it now you'll never know what kind of a mapper you could be.

Hobbs · 05-01-2003, 04:13 PM

hey biatch!! i sent you 2 emails and u never mailed me back!!! eek: what gives? oOo:

--={RMF}=--Snakeyes · 05-01-2003, 04:18 PM

Don't hang it up man you are one of the best there is. We love your work keep it coming.

Gauv · 05-01-2003, 04:46 PM

You whine a lot man. First it was "oh you moved my thread! about my near death experience! how dare you ! I am a supreme modder blah blah" (I may have paraphrased a bit :P) Well dude.. most people after having near death experiences.. have a new outlook on life, usually positive.. but you seem to have gotten bitter. Hobbs said he sent you some e-mails and you didn't write him back .. so I dunno man .. quit being a Grouch.

MPowell1944 · 05-01-2003, 04:55 PM

If you hang it up just b/c of lack of feedback, then I don't feel bad for you. I am sorry that you had that accident alittle while back, but if you are going to hang it up b/c of a lack of feedback, then I say oh well. Stick with it. If you willing to give up that easily, maybe its best you are gone.

T.Hunter · 05-01-2003, 05:13 PM

These are some harsh but true facts.

Be to honest you maps arent all that great. except for the scripting.

People could care less if you go, your just 1 SN out of thousands.

To me, you have that cocky, "Im the best" type of attitude

I also think you think, that people owe you something.

If you want feedback you wont get it at AA.com make your home @ TMT

As far as the Near Death experience, it seems like you want simpathy

As A fellow mapper giving advice to another, YOU ONLY MAKE MAPS FOR YOURSELF and share them with others. There is no deadline when you have to release your maps or what it should or shouldnt look like. You have to understand there are always people better than you in anything. Understanding that should push you to be a better mapper.
Your not doing this to get respect from people you dont know. Your doing this for yourself, as a hobby whenever you want to.

You should not depend on support. People who depend on support are the ones droping out of High School (in this case, mapping). The people doing it for themselves are the ones flying the space shuttles and other good stuff

You might take some of the things I said Personally, but all im trying to do is make you wake up...and face the facts.

freak:

**What a Shame -** 05-01-2003, 05:22 PM

After reading these responses I can see MPowell and others are right. You are a bunch of assholes. Oh you don't like me? Fuck you. I'll keep my maps to myself and those who give a shit. There are some people here who love my work, but they are lost in the VAST amount of assholes here. So FUCK YOU>>>, FUCK YOU>>>, FUCK YOU>>>>>, YOUR COOL, and FUCK YOU>>>> I'M OUT. M16:

Fireal · 05-01-2003, 05:25 PM

I use to have respect for u!
I mean quitting cuz a couple of assholes?
Your a fucking PUSSY!
so FUCK YOU!

T.Hunter · 05-01-2003, 05:38 PM

your not going to gain respect and positive feeback with that type of shitty ass attitude.

i gave you advice, but your to stuck up and narrow minded to use actually think about it.

you arent god. and you wont get simpathy from me anymore.

just another Screen Name on my Monitor.

05-01-2003, 05:39 PM

Uhhhh. Did I say I was giving up? I liked you too but I guess you don't like me.

**Friend or Foe? -** 05-01-2003, 05:48 PM

Lets get one thing straight right now. I SAID (again) that I respected people's thoughts and I don't mind that people shit on me or don't like my work. It's the lack of feedback. Why invest all that time in posting threads?
I'm not the best mapper, I'm not even in the top ten. I love mapping pc games and making mods. I have 0 illusions about my abilities. It's not only a hobby but it is what I am studying for future employment.
I have obviously ruffled some feathers asking if I should Hang it up. It was a question guys. You could refrain from all the flames and bullshit. I say FUCK YOU to those who don't like me, not to those who do. These types of reponses only furth solidify my belief that SOME people here are real assholes.

**Re: Friend or Foe? -** 05-01-2003, 06:25 PM

[quote="GEN COBRA":f83dd]Lets get one thing straight right now. I SAID (again) that I respected people's thoughts and I don't mind that people shit on me or don't like my work. It's the lack of feedback. Why invest all that time in posting threads?
I'm not the best mapper, I'm not even in the top ten. I love mapping pc games and making mods. I have 0 illusions about my abilities. It's not only a hobby but it is what I am studying for future employment.
I have obviously ruffled some feathers asking if I should Hang it up. It was a question guys. You could refrain from all the flames and bullshit. I say FUCK YOU to those who don't like me, not to those who do. These types of reponses only furth solidify my belief that SOME people here are real assholes.[/quote:f83dd]

lol

Timur the Lame · 05-01-2003, 06:54 PM

I don't see why you care what other people think. You are your own person. Fuck what other people have to say. As long as you have fun making maps and playing on them, don't stop. If you are easily offended by half the people on these forums, who most likely are no older then 15, then you have a serious problem. It's called self-esteem, and you seem to have a lack there of. If half the people compliment you and can't wait for you to release your maps, and the other half puts you and your maps down, who cares. Just brush them off like the little pieces of shit like they are. Don't let some pre-pubescent moron get to you.

MPowell1944 · 05-01-2003, 07:02 PM

Trust me Cobra, stick with it. You saw all the shit I went through trying to get back into the modding scene after my cheating ventures last year. Everyday I wanted to just giveup and forget about the game, but I didn't. If you are willing to give up b/c you didn't get feedback about your mods, then why continue modding for the game. I am not coming off as an asshole, and if you think I am, then thats your opinion. Advice is what I am giving, and its up to you whether you take it or not.

This game needs all the modders it can get. Lets not lose a good modder because of lack of feedback.