Reconstruction

Zen · **Reconstruction -** 05-03-2004, 04:35 AM

I put some thought into TGBs post and BSs replies to it. I would reference the exact post, but it has been deleted.

In the post TGB brought up changing the site layout and a few other good ideas. Amoung them, mod selection, different governing tactics, and better housekeeping.

I have also put some thought to Noctis' suggestion in reference to a more Allied Assault focused AA.

Now bear with me, It's 3AM here and I have just finished my 3rd drink for the night. This may come off as wild, extreme , or even insane. But the more I think about it, the more I am taken on the idea..... this is just a suggestion on a solution for the hax, spam, and general unrest amoung AAers.

Step One. ALL admin and mods be removed making BS the only person within the governing body of the site. This because you have leaked passwords my man, and without knowing how that hapened it would be best to start over. You can then reistate power later as needed.

Step Two. Delete and remove ALL users, and delete the ban list. Everyone starts over with a clean slate. This will allow for everyone to rejoin and will give you an accurate idea of exactly how many posters you actually have.

Step Three. Restart the forums, file submitions, and news articles. This will allow you to make changes easily to the forum layout, and flow of information within the site. Fresh start. This would also be a great oppertunity to get new affiliates and contacts would have to come back to the site and repost info, ect.

Now I know that sounds extreme.... but a fresh start in all aspects of the website and forum could prove to be not only an opertnity for you to rework and refine the site, but also an opertunity for the users to see some real change.

It is my understanding that the only reason this site is attacked is because of banishments and current control factors. I think by deleting ALL accounts and the banlist, that problem could be solved.

I also think that the site and forums could use a good overhaul, no harm in it anyway. You have more than enough trained proffessionals at this site to help you with whatever needs you may have.

And finally, a fresh aprouch and "new" look would be a good marketing move. You would not only improve the user-base, but also gain more ground in sites wanting to be affiliated with AA.

I am open to coment, by all. This is just a thought, but I felt like sharring in light of the recent attack.

Tystnad · 05-03-2004, 04:41 AM

Aye, ill be glad to help out if its needed.
And i agree on mosts points there, Zen.
Some of them i feel split againt, but otherwise, you summed it up pretty well.

Da_Bian · 05-03-2004, 05:58 AM

sounds good
We (and BS) have nothing to lose except our post count, and that's not important at all. beer:

plus, if its fucked, everyone can always join http://www.victorcharlie.net cool:

Poseidon · 05-03-2004, 06:49 AM

i totally agree with u zen - anything u need to help - i'm only a pm/email away.

Merlin122 · 05-03-2004, 07:31 AM

sounds nice. but im sure some of the 69ers wont be too happy.

elstatec · 05-03-2004, 07:34 AM

beh getting rid of the banlist is like sucking off the people who hacked the site.

elstatec · 05-03-2004, 07:38 AM

oh and aint there backups or the forum, so the deleted threads can be brought back...like basically all the stickies in the art forum as THOSE FAGGOT/S DELETED THEM.

CoMaToSe · 05-03-2004, 07:43 AM

so, im the only one who sees a problem with the whole account loss thing?
i disagree with the deletion of all accounts. i dont see how this will help. get rid of the ban list, i dont understand how that would help, other than to give easier access to the asshats who hacked us. but for the love of god do not delete the accounts. and having only 1 mod? no. too much for 1 guy, and that would also make it easier for some1 to hack us. ever heard of safety in numbers, my friend? BS could easily make a new password without having to be alone in moderating this site. deleting every post would also not help. What you are suggesting here, zen, is communism, and by makin BS the only mod, you are simply opening the oor to more abuse and hacking.

Tystnad · 05-03-2004, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMaToSe

so, im the only one who sees a problem with the whole account loss thing?
i disagree with the deletion of all accounts. i dont see how this will help. get rid of the ban list, i dont understand how that would help, other than to give easier access to the asshats who hacked us. but for the love of god do not delete the accounts. and having only 1 mod? no. too much for 1 guy, and that would also make it easier for some1 to hack us. ever heard of safety in numbers, my friend? BS could easily make a new password without having to be alone in moderating this site. deleting every post would also not help. What you are suggesting here, zen, is communism, and by makin BS the only mod, you are simply opening the oor to more abuse and hacking.

You didnt read and understand, as prescripted.
Removing the accounts will make the site flow better and load faster, since a whole bunch of the turds signed up doesnt even come here anymore.
And regarding the moderator thing; Its only for a while, to make sure that no-one except BS will have the proper passwords and allowance to do these kind of things.

CoMaToSe · 05-03-2004, 07:52 AM

then delete the accounts that havent been used in the past, like, 2 months or summat. still i dont see why it would help to have only 1 mod. why? we can have all the old mods, just new passwords and stuff for them if th old ones were leaked.

Tystnad · 05-03-2004, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMaToSe

then delete the accounts that havent been used in the past, like, 2 months or summat. still i dont see why it would help to have only 1 mod. why? we can have all the old mods, just new passwords and stuff for them if th old ones were leaked.

That is why they have to be deleted first. If any of the accounts is still in the system, and has access to the Admin password, he will not be able to know which one it is. And out of safety purpose, the mods must be removed for a while, and then reinstated, once things have been sorted.
Never did he say that they should be deleted for good.

And you must have mixed communism and capitalism up.
The communism class system is based upon the thought of equality. In other words, we would all be moderators, if this was a communistic forum.

Zen · 05-03-2004, 08:08 AM

Right, I get what you guys are saying in terms of the banlist. Let me explain my thought process on that..... To elimainate a threat or neusence you have to route out the source. We could ban proxies for years and it still would not resolve the matter. It would only cause more attacks.

The way I see it, a new start, to include those who have been previolsly banned, could be just the gesture to make a difference. I am willing to bet the banlist is 95% proxies anyway, and only 1-2% not from the revolutions.

As far as the accounts go, I am sure the 69ers would be somewhat apprehensive about it, but we all know post counts and join dates dont mean shit. We only have about 60-100 regular posters, the rest are smurfs and inactive members. Cleaning house completely would be much easier than deciding on a account by account basis.

As far as passwords and modship are concerned, all should be removed and even BSs own account. This should be done to eliminate the possibillity of passwords and user accounts from containing leaked information. New Mods and admins can be reinstated after everything is set up, with the upmost discression used in the not only the selection of those possitions, but also in the selection of their passwords.

I am not saying that BS should do all the modding himself, I am just saying that without knowing how or who leaked information the easiest solution would be to clean it all out and start over.

This is just an idea, I doubt it will be followed up on, and I am glad to see coments about it.

T.Hunter · 05-03-2004, 10:10 AM

it took me 2 years to get 647 posts, and im not about to spend another 2 years trying to make em up

elitecloud · 05-03-2004, 10:13 AM

that's because you have a life....stop it stop it now!

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elstatec · 05-03-2004, 10:39 AM

i say again, your point about the ban list being abolished zen is just too nice and is totally against the whole fact of having a banlist...to ban people, letting the people who done this back into the site? how about no....