[Jimbo@]

Don't you just hate unpatriotic jerks who don't support the President/troops in war?

Here's what Republicans said about Clinton and Kosovo

Why did they second-guess our commitment to freedom from genocide and demand that we cut and run?

"President Clinton is once again releasing American military might on a foreign country with an ill-defined objective and no exit strategy. He has yet to tell the Congress how much this operation will cost. And he has not informed our nation's armed forces about how long they will be
away from home. These strikes do not make for a sound foreign policy."

-Senator Rick Santorum (R-PA)

"No goal, no objective, not until we have those things and a compelling case is made, then I say, back out of it, because innocent people are going to die for nothing. That's why I'm against it."

-Sean Hannity, Fox News, 4/5/99

"American foreign policy is now one huge big mystery. Simply put, the administration is trying to lead the world with a feel-good foreign policy."

-Representative Tom Delay (R-TX)

"If we are going to commit American troops, we must be certain they have a clear mission, an achievable goal and an exit strategy."

-Karen Hughes, speaking on behalf of presidential candidate George W. Bush


Why did they demoralize our brave men and women in uniform?

"I had doubts about the bombing campaign from the beginning...I didn't think we had done enough in the diplomatic area."

-Senator Trent Lott (R-MS)


"You think Vietnam was bad? Vietnam is nothing next to Kosovo."

-Tony Snow, Fox News 3/24/99


"Well, I just think it's a bad idea. What's going to happen is they're going to be over there for 10, 15, maybe 20 years"

-Joe Scarborough (R-FL)


"I'm on the Senate Intelligence Committee, so you can trust me and believe me when I say we're running out of cruise missles. I can't tell you exactly how many we have left, for security reasons, but we're almost out of cruise missles."

-Senator Inhofe (R-OK )

"I cannot support a failed foreign policy. History teaches us that it is often easier to make war than peace. This administration is just learning that lesson right now. The President began this mission with very vague objectives and lots of unanswered questions. A month later, these questions are still unanswered. There are no clarifiedrules of engagement. There is no timetable. There is no legitimate definition of victory. There is no contingency plan for mission creep. There is no clear funding program. There is no agenda to bolster our overextended military. There is no explanation defining what vital national interests are at stake. There was no strategic plan for war when the President started this thing, and there still is no plan today"

-Representative Tom Delay (R-TX)

"I don't know that Milosevic will ever raise a white flag"

-Senator Don Nickles (R-OK)

"Explain to the mothers and fathers of American servicemen that may come home in body bags why their son or daughter have to give up their life?"

-Sean Hannity, Fox News, 4/6/99


Why didn't they support our president in a time of war?


"Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is."

-Governor George W. Bush (R-TX)


"This is President Clinton's war, and when he falls flat on his face, that's his problem."

-Senator Richard Lugar (R-IN)

"The two powers that have ICBMs that can reach the United States are Russia and China. Here we go in. We're taking on not just Milosevic. We can't just say, 'that little guy, we can whip him.' We have these two other powers that have missiles that can reach us, and we have zero defense thanks to this president."

-Senator James Inhofe (R-OK)


"You can support the troops but not the president"

-Representative Tom Delay (R-TX)


"My job as majority leader is be supportive of our troops, try to have input as decisions are made and to look at those decisions after they're made ... not to march in lock step with everything the president decides to do."

-Senator Trent Lott (R-MS)


For us to call this a victory and to commend the President of the United States as the Commander in Chief showing great leadership in Operation Allied Force is a farce"
-Representative Tom Delay (R-TX)


Why did they blame America first?

Bombing a sovereign nation for ill-defined reasons with vague objectives undermines the American stature in the world. The international respect and trust for America has diminished every time we casually let the bombs fly."

-Representative Tom Delay (R-TX)


"Once the bombing commenced, I think then Milosevic unleashed his forces, and then that's when the slaughtering and the massive ethnic cleansing really started"

-Senator Don Nickles (R-OK)

"Clinton's bombing campaign has caused all of these problems to explode"

-Representative Tom Delay (R-TX)


"America has no vital interest in whose flag flies over Kosovo's capital, and no right to attack and kill Serb soldiers fighting on their own soil to preserve the territorial integrity of their own country"

-Pat Buchanan (R)


"These international war criminals were led by Gen. Wesley Clark ...who clicked his shiny heels for the commander-in-grief, Bill Clinton."

-Michael Savage


"This has been an unmitigated disaster ... Ask the Chinese embassy. Ask all the people in Belgrade that we've killed. Ask the refugees that we've killed. Ask the people in nursing homes. Ask the people in hospitals."

-Representative Joe Scarborough (R-FL)


"It is a remarkable spectacle to see the Clinton Administration and NATO taking over from the Soviet Union the role of sponsoring "wars of national liberation."

-Representative Helen Chenoweth (R-ID)


"By the order to launch air strikes against Serbia, NATO and President Clinton have entered uncharted territory in mankind's history. Not even Hitler's grab of the Sudetenland in the 1930s, which eventually led to WW II, ranks as a comparable travesty. For, there are no American interests whatsoever that the NATO bombing will
either help, or protect; only needless risks to which it exposes the American soldiers and assets, not to mention the victims on the ground in Serbia."

-Bob Djurdjevic, founder of Truth in Media

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[Wilko]

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Surely everyone's entitled to an opinion. Blindly following leaders without question is what got the world embroiled in two world wars. Sure, they're not towing the party line, but that's a Republican problem, not an American one.

Isn't one of the major plusses of the US that you get to live in a country where you are free to question the doctrine of your Government?

Again, not intended to be America-bashing; Just presenting my opinion.

[KTOG]

Nice find!

Funny how parties act when the president is of the oppisite party.

[1080jibber]

good read, thanks

[c312]

It's true, everybody acts differently when the president is of the opposite political party. But, I think that a lot of those people did not support that war and support this war because they feel that Iraq could harm us in the future, whereas Kosovo was not in a position to threaten us directly. I'm not saying that's what those people were thinking, I just think that maybe that is their line of thinking.

Also, along the same lines, why are Democrats saying some of the things they are saying having supported Clinton in Kosovo? Now Bush is president and does a similar thing to a higher degree and they think the whole idea is wrong.

[KTOG]

Heh, i'll heckle the president no matter what his party. I'm a registered independent cool:

[Pyro]

I never seen this before. Isn't the word used for this type of stuff hypocrisy?

It is wrong if a democrat does it, but it is a fucking accomplishment for the entire country if a republican does it and a necessarity to keep their land peaceful.

Well shit. It was never proven Iraq was a threat to the Us...Bush acted on assumptions which is the worst thing you can do.

[1080jibber]

Originally Posted by Pyro

I never seen this before. Isn't the word used for this type of stuff hypocrisy?

It is wrong if a democrat does it, but it is a fucking accomplishment for the entire country if a republican does it and a necessarity to keep their land peaceful.

Well shit. It was never proven Iraq was a threat to the Us...Bush acted on assumptions which is the worst thing you can do.

Iraq will forever be the United States problem now, it will allways be a thorn in its side. So many US soldiers will die for nothing, you cant bring democracy into Iraq, its like having a jehovah's witness come to your door.

[Mr.Buttocks]

http://operationyellowelephant.blogspot.com/

[Madmartagen]

lol, i was looking for Newt Gengrichs' quaint little comment he made about Clintons 'useless nationbuilding.'

[Stammer]

Tony Snow, plzdie: .

spank: spank:

[TGB!]

[quote:afd30]Heh, i'll heckle the president no matter what his party. I'm a registered independent[/quote:afd30]

Theres no such thing. You may be REGISTERED under the ambiguous banner of INDEPENDENT - but you're political ideology firmly plants you somewhere.

[quote:afd30]Well shit. It was never proven Iraq was a threat to the Us[/quote:afd30]

And what major thread did GERMANY present to us?

[quote:afd30]So many US soldiers will die for nothing, you cant bring democracy into Iraq.[/quote:afd30]

Im sure they said the same thing about the Colonies:

"You'll never be able to get out from under the throne" -

Or hell S. Africa:

"You'll never get rid of apartheid"

How the hell do you expect progress and change to happen? REVOLUTION has been the time tested cure for OPPRESSION. The United States. France. Germany. S. Africa. China (ok bad example). All over the world violence and sacrafice are what SOLIDIFIED change - not flowery words. There were MANY diplomats in the 1800's who wanted to end slavery - but it took a fucking Civil War to bring it to fruition.

[Madmartagen]

yes, but it was their own soldiers who did the fighting, they didnt have a foreign power come in and do nearly all the fighting for them. if the iraqi people actually wanted their liberty and freedom, they should have started something on their own. if they arent willing to risk it, then they arent ready. just look what happened recently - they fuckin decided to adapt islamic law into their constitution. that is a fuckin slap in our face.

[KTOG]

[quote="TGB!":3aab3]

[quote:3aab3]
Heh, i'll heckle the president no matter what his party. I'm a registered independent
[/quote:3aab3]

Theres no such thing. You may be REGISTERED under the ambiguous banner of INDEPENDENT - but you're political ideology firmly plants you somewhere.

[/quote:3aab3]

A tad redundant? Yes, as soon as I vote for some one in the poll booth I lose my independant status. Much like how some one says they aren't a picky eater but order something specific off the menu. Should I change what I said to "I'm indenpendant until i enter the poll booth?"

[1080jibber]

Originally Posted by Madmartagen

yes, but it was their own soldiers who did the fighting, they didnt have a foreign power come in and do nearly all the fighting for them. if the iraqi people actually wanted their liberty and freedom, they should have started something on their own. if they arent willing to risk it, then they arent ready. just look what happened recently - they fuckin decided to adapt islamic law into their constitution. that is a fuckin slap in our face.

so true