[Alias]

Ok folks just tossing a topic out there to see if the cat licks it up... Here are the two sides in this debate.

Position A: Man is predisposed to evil. It is in him when he is born.
Position B: Society and Environment create Evil, no one is born Evil.


So? Many Arguments can be made of these two opinions. I'd like to see what everyone thinks.

[Miscguy]

Evil is what socity will tolerate or rather wont. So it depends on a point of view. What is evil in one culture may not be in another. It is personal opionion instilled in you. You are not born with the thought that murder is evil. Canibals of BFE dont know eatting another man is evil its there culture they were raised in that says munch away.

Im not a religious person, im a realistic person.

society is evil. i hate society. dont be subject to socieites beliefs

[BallisticWookie]

[quote="Anti Hero":f41e5]society is evil. i hate society. dont be subject to socieites beliefs[/quote:f41e5]

:roll: If you only look for the bad things in society/life, that is all you ever will see.

[Alias]

[quote:f02b9]Im not a religious person, im a realistic person.
[/quote:f02b9]

This isnt a religious poll, its a realistic one

So your belief is that Evil is what Society says it is? Do you believe there are universal ideas of Evil? Murderers, rapist, pedophiles? Surely most, if not all individual societies and cultures have a negative view on these certain kinds of people, or actions.

[Low spark]

I'm going to have to sleep on this one, I just hope I don't have have and evil dreams.

[intrestedviewer]

We are all just evil, well i dont know if evil is the word but bad maybe. Ever since you first start to want something, anything it could be your 4 years old and you want that cookie but the tall guy has it in his hand. What do u do? u kick him in the knee, gimme that cookie, or u try to steal it by someform or another. Evil is caused by Wanting its the root of evil. And its just human nature to want things. Take adolf hitler, he wanted to install an idea into a country of anti semitism. whatever it may be to want to impose ideas, to want something tangible, to want to have power. Its all caused by wanting.

[SoLiDUS]

One has to have studied criminology and sociology to fully enjoy the
content of this thread.

From my readings, it is my understanding that your set and setting (in
layman terms, your environment and the people that are part of your
life) have a great impact on the way you live your life: your parents or
guardians are the first to impress on your being; the first to "educate"
you. People are born tabula rasa, clean slates, so I doubt that "evil"
is innate in a person. I seriously doubt it.

Also, consider that "evil" is very subjective; although we can generalize
and say that some acts are more universally accepted as evil, like killing
or raping. It then becomes obvious that your setting (not to mention the
set) has a great deal of importance and is a vital clue in understanding
how and why a person will act a certain way or why someone will commit
a certain "evil".

Naturally, the above is a lot of generalization... and I encourage you to
read up on criminology and sociology if this is of interest to you.

[Sniped]

I think everyone is born a good person, it is just society and the pressure it places on people that make them change their ways.

[Star85]

I think that the persons envioroment affects how they will act.

[Alias]

[quote:42a72]I think that the persons envioroment affects how they will act[/quote:42a72]

Person A grows up in a wealthy home, great education, popular, decent relationship with parents and a steady relationship.....he wears other peoples skin to bed

Person B lives in the ghetto, has seen family and friends murdered, is poor and his mom is a crack whore.....he ends up becomming an MD


Does Environment play a role? In some cases? Is it merely a "surge" of negative environmental factors that causes the natural Evil within us to come out? Too many questions...

[Sniped]

Originally Posted by Alias

[quote:9207e]I think that the persons envioroment affects how they will act

Person A grows up in a wealthy home, great education, popular, decent relationship with parents and a steady relationship.....he wears other peoples skin to bed

Person B lives in the ghetto, has seen family and friends murdered, is poor and his mom is a crack whore.....he ends up becomming an MD


Does Environment play a role? In some cases? Is it merely a "surge" of negative environmental factors that causes the natural Evil within us to come out? Too many questions...[/quote:9207e]

That may be true, but it is still more likely for Person A to become the MD and person B to live on the streets. Based on the circumstances in which they grew up. In some cases like Person A, this person obviously has some mental disabilities/problems. I still think most people are molded into evil people by peer pressure or the lifestyle they grow up in, and some special cases when they have mental problems.

[SoLiDUS]

Mental stability and consistency is important

A lot of problems appear in the early teen years due to traumatic
experiences, phobias; early childhood through unwarranted fears.

I can't be sure of this myself, but a very bad experience might have
caused me to become more introverted than I would have been if the
situation wouldn't have happened... but it's very likely, as all signs
point to it.

I have an unjustified fear of the dark: I can still function normally
but I *will* scan the area a lot more. It's funny, considering I know
logically that I am in my bastion and also that many people are close
by... but hey, early childhood "problems" do that to you. I'm slowly
"fixing" the problem :lol:

You have to be careful what you expose a child to in his early years;
it could end up shaping him in ways you couldn't possibly imagine...

:wink:

[Pfc.Green]

Apples are evil, bad...bad.

[CeltFury]

[quote="Pfc.Green":170c9]Apples are evil, bad...bad.[/quote:170c9]

Stupid apples. They are the root of all evil in the world.