No More Campers ?

scorpiomidget · **No More Campers ? -** 09-25-2002, 12:08 PM

Well had some more fun this afternoon.

Working on a new mod to help stop those annoying campers

The camper starts saying "I'm a camper" (he can't stop it)
And if he stays too long the bomb on his head explodes ! rofl

What a living player sees:

[img]http://www.duncanweir.co.uk/temp/anticamper1.jpg[/img]

What a spectator sees:

[img]http://www.duncanweir.co.uk/temp/anticamper2.jpg[/img]

=[DOA]=VonMeyer · 09-25-2002, 12:22 PM

Dont whine about camping its a tactic. Only idiots run in the open. Anyone whines about camping on the DOA server i automatically kick em off and there banned! No second chances.I say you dont like campers dont play the game its something you cant stop! Another thing i hope thats not an IP addy. Brodcasting an IP is like giving out your SSN over the phone to some stranger. You dont like camping dont play the fucking game.

scorpiomidget · 09-25-2002, 12:28 PM

Am still working on this mod.

So an admin can customize the parameters.

BTW am showing bombs attached to the player, but there are other ways to kill off the camper (if even needed), like a plane dropping a bomb or something ... or a bullet hit, or a spawned ai runs up )

As i see it in default mode it should do this.

Only activate during last 2 minutes of map time, or when only 2 players are alive.

Only effect the attacking team ?

Only effect OBJ maps.

Thoughts please ...

Do you want one or not ? and if so what do you want ?

=[DOA]=VonMeyer · 09-25-2002, 12:31 PM

No. We dont run obj on our server so its something i dont have to worry about. Im not the kind of Admin that gives people second chances i automatically boot em. If im killed in the spot i was camping at i move to another spot where they wont see me but ill see them. Besides people who run in the open are more likely to get there head blown off from a snipers bullet. Me i stay in one spot and rack up a nice score.

scorpiomidget · 09-25-2002, 12:54 PM

Ok guys i'd like to hear the communities views on this mod.

Just about anything is possible.

So if you have a good idea on how/when/where to deal with campers PLEASE let me know, just post below

Things that can be done.

Sounds near the player
Player speaks (voice)
Player speaks (text at top)
Player takes damage
Player is moved
Player is killed.
Ai or Object (like Arrow) leads other players to camper)
etc etc

Also interested in the timer settings before mod kicks in.
And what sort of maps it should happen on.
Maybe i build a map list into the mod, each with seperate params ?
Could have areas where the camper can be (like near the obj itself).
Or areas where the camper can't be, like at the spawn point.

=[DOA]=VonMeyer · 09-25-2002, 02:21 PM

Why dont you make it for TDM so we Admin dont have to deal with spawn campers?

joncoupe · **yea -** 09-25-2002, 02:22 PM

i like the idea and i have to say you are great scorpio but it would totally spoil the WW2 kinda gameplay. It would be good and keep up the good work! eatthis:

reimer21 · 09-25-2002, 10:48 PM

Scorpio, I think it's a waste of time. Good for learning but I personally don't think many ppl would want it. Keep up the gracious works!

Ghost Dog · 09-26-2002, 03:54 AM

Don't mind these guys Scorpio, I think an anti-camp mod is a very good idea. And I prefer the one where the player start yelling things like 'I'm a coward, come and kill me cause I'm too chicken to move'.
And DOA, guys like you suck, I'm happy I read this cause now I know I never have to join your server. If everybody would play like you, there would be no fun at all --> everybody would just sit there and nothing would happen, no-one would die, think about it. Ok, you maybe get the highest score, but in what way?? not the honor-way, that 's for sure.
Anyway, I 'd still kick your ass M16: ...in the brave way

Akuma · 09-26-2002, 05:10 AM

Camping is a tactic though. This is supposed to a realistic WWII game. Not quake or unreal tournament. Do you think people that fought in WWII would run around aimlessly in the streets of a city? No. Cause you only have 1 life. Camping is a great tactic that works very well. If you think its a bad idea, then go play UT2k3.

Ghost Dog · 09-26-2002, 06:38 AM

I hate UT, and all those other unrealistic games, and I didn't say you have to run around like an idiot, just don't sit the entire game on your ass aiming @ a door, that 's just lame. Show some courage.
Campers just waste your time, some guys even camp when it 's 1 on 1, so all the other (dead) players can sit there for ages. If I 'm the last one left in my team, and things are taking too long, I just start shooting in the air to alert the other player and then kick his ass.
Remember: IT 'S JUST A GAME

yochoylamuete · 09-26-2002, 07:18 AM

I think I'm not going to use an anti-camper mod, but is good to know I could do that if needed.

About casting IP's, I think the numbers are the coords of the player as seen on the console.

I really don like the bomb version. A plane could be hard to understand on interiors. The AI option seems really fun (what about a dog attacking the camper? lol!)

I can't see the point of using it on obj maps, I mean: if you defend your obj, then camping is ok - if you are the attacker but you camp, you lose the match.

Anyway, thumbs up once more, Scorpio.

Overlord [K1] · 09-26-2002, 07:36 AM

The only type of camping that is bad is spawn camping. That is just BS and I will/do kick spawn campers. However I fail to see how camping will affect OBJ servers.

The objective of the game is to either kill the enemy team or take the objective within a time limit. If someone wishes to camp and let the time limit expire then they will be getting all sorts of abuse from their team.

We use TAKING YOUR TIME as a tactic. Only a total neebie would steam in with no regard. Anyway anti cheat software is a worth while thing to have as kronos1 cannot abide cheating in any way.

As far as anti camper software goes. Kronos1 will not be using it as I think that will make OBJ more like FFA where people just want to rush in. I stll say you cannot camp in OBJ by design of the game.

Just my 2 pence.

Bullet Sponge · **Campers -** 09-26-2002, 11:08 PM

I don't have a problem with someone picking out a primo spot and going to town , thats what snipers do . However , it drives me nuts when some spineless dweeb shoots me the instant I spawn . I'll gleefully eat frags and take MG fire to the groin but give a guy a chance to play will ya !

=[DOA]=VonMeyer · 09-26-2002, 11:29 PM

[quote="[ghost dogg]":63a46]Don't mind these guys Scorpio, I think an anti-camp mod is a very good idea. And I prefer the one where the player start yelling things like 'I'm a coward, come and kill me cause I'm too chicken to move'.
And DOA, guys like you suck, I'm happy I read this cause now I know I never have to join your server. If everybody would play like you, there would be no fun at all --> everybody would just sit there and nothing would happen, no-one would die, think about it. Ok, you maybe get the highest score, but in what way?? not the honor-way, that 's for sure.
Anyway, I 'd still kick your ass M16: ...in the brave way[/quote:63a46]

Dont bother ill Ban you!