america land of the free? - Page 2

pest · 03-05-2003, 01:26 PM

Yes, it is extreme, but no ones rights were deprived. No one was persecuted or beaten. I somehow think there is more to the story than is being told here, but it really doesnt matter. The mall is a business, if they offend you with their actions, dont go there any more. I do my best not supprot businesses that support anti-gun groups or animal rights extremists. It isnt so hard.

Big Jake · **LMAO -** 03-05-2003, 01:50 PM

Ok, this is just too funny. Your making a big deal b/c he was kicked out of the mall??
First off, the security guards have every right to ask someone to remove a piece of offensive clothing. Not because he doesn't like it, because he has to protect the people visiting his mall. Something like that can cause a riot and get some people seriously hurt. I applaude the security guard in his sense of duty.
As far as free Speech goes, It is a free country, you can say anything you want, you might get your ass pounded because of it. That is simply because people don't understand. However, if memory comes to serve, most countrys in Europe don't have the right of free speech. Especially in times past lots of people were jailed, and exectued simply b/c they held a political difference with the ruler of their country.
So stop your bashing of the US. You have a problem with us? Thats your problem. If you don't like it here, don't step foot in this country. And I won't have to worry about you breathing our air and polluting this great country with your stench.

cameltoe · 03-05-2003, 04:59 PM

fukin gestapo, who the hell would be offended by a simple shirt. you gung ho war freaks dont understand that if a world war was started by George asshat Bush, no one would come out alive. this is not a war against terrorism, its a war against islam. there are terrorists here in america, plenty of them in ireland but George isnt doing shit about them is he? This is his version of a fukin crusade

Hmmmmm · 03-05-2003, 05:13 PM

This is why they didn't want the protestors in the mall:

[quote:3dee3] Demonstrators upset about the trespassing charge arrived at Crossgates shortly before noon Wednesday wearing similar peace messages. At 12 p.m., they entered the mall together and sat down for lunch at the food court. They said they were doing what Stephen and Roger Downs should have been allowed to do.
When a few protestors decided to get a little more vocal, a 55-year-old veteran attacked them. That veteran yelled at the protestors and then went so far as to push the men.
[/quote:3dee3]

Milla · **Re: america land of the free? -** 03-05-2003, 05:14 PM

[quote="Sargent_Scrotum":a3f54]so much for free speech eh? [url="http://www.msnbc.com/local/WNYT/M276307.asp?cp1=1"]http://www.msnbc.com/local/WNYT/M276307.asp?cp1=1[/url][/quote:a3f54]

free speech has its limits, about 95% of the people in the world dont see that

SoLiDUS · 03-05-2003, 05:16 PM

I agree with Camel Toe...

... and a fucking peace shirt offended someone !? WHO !?

Jesus FUCKING Christ some people are dumb: they're stealing ressources
(air, food, lodging) that would be best used elsewhere! I' ve almost heard
it all, now.

hake:

Bucknub · 03-05-2003, 05:20 PM

[img]http://www.dodstudios.net/uploads/uploads/t-shirtgfs.jpg[/img]

**Re: LMAO -** 03-05-2003, 05:24 PM

[quote="Big Jake":3ce81]Ok, this is just too funny. Your making a big deal b/c he was kicked out of the mall??
First off, the security guards have every right to ask someone to remove a piece of offensive clothing. Not because he doesn't like it, because he has to protect the people visiting his mall. Something like that can cause a riot and get some people seriously hurt. I applaude the security guard in his sense of duty.
As far as free Speech goes, It is a free country, you can say anything you want, you might get your ass pounded because of it. That is simply because people don't understand. However, if memory comes to serve, most countrys in Europe don't have the right of free speech. Especially in times past lots of people were jailed, and exectued simply b/c they held a political difference with the ruler of their country.
So stop your bashing of the US. You have a problem with us? Thats your problem. If you don't like it here, don't step foot in this country. And I won't have to worry about you breathing our air and polluting this great country with your stench.[/quote:3ce81]

the fact that a shirt with printed words can start a riot proves just how stupid 40% of teh people of our country are. (but we already know that 40% of Americans are morons, since that 40% cannot locate Iraq and New York state on a map hake: )

Vance · 03-05-2003, 05:28 PM

Actually 40% of the people in America are illegal immagrants oOo:

Milla · 03-05-2003, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vance1

Actually 40% of the people in America are illegal immagrants oOo:

[img]http://www.dodstudios.net/uploads/uploads/owned_hal.jpg[/img]

pest · 03-05-2003, 05:30 PM

No one is argueing that it wasnt a knee jerk reaction. Most are responding to the freedom of speech arguement.

I will say it again, I am sure there is more to the story than we are being told. Did an arguement break out in the store? Were they being antaganistic about their cause? Dunno, but I sure would like to.

03-05-2003, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pest

No one is argueing that it wasnt a knee jerk reaction. Most are responding to the freedom of speech arguement.

I will say it again, I am sure there is more to the story than we are being told. Did an arguement break out in the store? Were they being antaganistic about their cause? Dunno, but I sure would like to.

probably, and since America is "the land of the lawsuit" the mall would be held responsible is someone got hurt because a fight broke out.
I'm sure that if it was a pro-war shirt the person would have been kicked out too.
With all this liability and political correctness bullshit we'll probably have to wear jeans and plain white shirts to the mall not to offend anyone

Unknown_Sniper · 03-05-2003, 09:48 PM

Scrotum you start all these threads that spark violence look at you freaking sig you hypocritical idiot

JowShmoe · **my 2 cents -** 03-05-2003, 10:27 PM

1st cent: Scrotum no one gives a fuck what you think. stop making gay threads for the purpose of a flame war.

2nd cent: a mall, like nearly everything in America, is private property owned by an individual or a group of them, who chose to allow their property to become a public place by making it a mall. They have every right to decide who can enter into their mall as long as it doesn't break any discrimination laws. the security guard is just doing his job, which is to make the mall a comfortable place for EVERYONE.

thats it.

cameltoe · 03-05-2003, 10:40 PM

first of all its a normal discussion not a flame war asshat
and it is discriminating, i mean what if they kicked everyone out that had a blue shirt on