Nazi killing pleasure - Page 2

Wehr · 02-01-2002, 04:30 AM

What I'm trying to say is that you are not noticing the difference between the soldiers at WAR, and the NAZIS in charge of atrocities.

What destroyed holland?

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Wehr · 02-01-2002, 04:38 AM

One of the biggest misconceptions of Germany during the war, is that they all happily stood together united throughout the entire conflict. Each and every German knew what was to become, but they were all at the same level of understanding.

All of the war atrocities commit by Germany had something [if not everything] to do with direct orders from high ranking Nazi party officials. Every single one was kept secret to the best of their ability.

People as of today are still arguing whether or not the holocaust actually happened on such a large scale because so many documents and records were destroyed.

There are still classified documents about WW1 war crimes. Goes to show that the people who commit them sure don't want anybody to find out about it.

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thakiller2k2 · 02-01-2002, 06:04 AM

What is the best thing to do in your spare time i think shooting Nazi GuYs is a very plesant thing 2 do What´s your opinion

DER.Fuhrer.CN · 02-01-2002, 06:59 AM

Yeah, I'm using the IMG tag, but its not showing up, it this one of those forums that you have to post a certain amount before being able to have a sig.

Wehr · 02-01-2002, 08:27 AM

Well, technically speaking there is only 1 nazi modelled in the game. And that would be the "elite sentry" with the red swastika armband. The name in real life would be Allgemeine SS or Totenkopfverband SS. Moh is rather pathetically historically incorrect in many aspects.

The Wehrmacht (german armed forces) or Heer (normal german army) were not apart of the Nazi party. The "grenadier" modelled is just a class that EA made up. The camo smock used looks more like Italian camo than Heer camo (or Waffen SS camo). DAK (deutsches afrika korps) was under Wehrmacht control therefore were also exempt from Nazi party membership as well.

The Waffen SS were technically apart of the 3 branches of the SS. But while they were a branch, they were also a front line force. The unofficial purpose of the Waffen SS was to counter the balance of power in Germany, as the Wehrmacht; the SA (sturmabteilung); and SS (schutzstaffel) were always fighting for power and favor from Hitler.

Thus, the Waffen SS was formed as a "political army" to balance the power between the armed forces. They were considered to be elite, but mainly because they generally had much more strict leadership as the higher ranking commanders were direct nazi party officers.

The SS itself was a large organization of police and military branch offs. While funded and favored by the NAzi party, they still were not apart of the Nazi party.

So, the many different organizations in WW2 Germany were technically under the Nazi political party yes, but it did not necessarily mean that their members believed in NAzi politics. Many Germans loved their country and fought for it when asked, nazi or not.

The best example of this would be a normal everyday republic. The US army is made up of almost %100 right-wingers but it does not mean that all must follow the right-wing. also the US army doesn't simply disintegrate when a left-wing polititian gets elected into office.

Nazi Germany worked out alot like our democracies ironically enough.

Anyway, I just thought I'd clear that up

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sgt.sayian · 02-01-2002, 08:55 AM

bah, any german who fought for the germany army in World War 2 is a nazi (even if they didn't wanna be). Some germans were forced to fight and didn't wanna be a nazi but they were fighting for the nazi's and are one the self.

not to get off topic

YES! I love killin em stupid german fuckers in mohaa

, makes me happy when im in a bad mood lol.

RAZAK · 02-01-2002, 10:01 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sgt.sayian:
bah, any german who fought for the germany army in World War 2 is a nazi (even if they didn't wanna be). Some germans were forced to fight and didn't wanna be a nazi but they were fighting for the nazi's and are one the self.

not to get off topic

YES! I love killin em stupid german fuckers in mohaa , makes me happy when im in a bad mood lol.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Your a ignorate idiot. Grow up or learn some history.

TrenD*KilleR · 02-01-2002, 10:10 AM

Very well said Wehr, you commented that EA made up the grenadier. Correct me if i'm wrong but the infantry units that supported the Panzer tank units were called Panzergrenadiers maybe this is what EA meant to be using.

Deadmeat · 02-01-2002, 10:27 AM

Actually, the only thing that wasn't very democratic about the german army was that their troop command structure wasn't democratic.

If a Private, Lt., Etc. in the U.S. Army had to ignore an order or two from their C.O. (or translate it a different way) to get the job done without unnecessary losses, it was usually commended.

However, the D Day invasion could have been much harder if the german infrastructure allowed for spontaneous action. As it was, it was many. many hours before a counteroffensive took place because the command hierarchy was so rigid. One Field Marshall couldn't move his forces from a position until he got Hitler's ok. But Hitler was asleep and nobody wanted to wake him because they thought all the scattered airborne drops were just a diversion for a larger invasion to the north.

Just my 2 marks,

-Deadmeat

Lone_Wolf · 02-01-2002, 10:43 AM

You have seen that in The longest day right? It's just a movie and they make up things. Can you give me a prove of what you are saying?

Deadmeat · 02-01-2002, 10:49 AM

Do you need proof from me??? Read D-Day by Stephen Ambrose... He actually interviewed one of the German Commanders about it, and all his sources are specifically documented. He's considered to be one of the world's best and most accessible WWII historians.

Actually, I highly recommend any of Ambrose's WWII books. So what if he's had 2 plagarism charges against him in the last 2 months. He only copied a couple paragraphs

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DER.Fuhrer.CN · 02-01-2002, 10:50 AM

You schwine!

Deadmeat · 02-01-2002, 10:52 AM

Hehehe.... Nice first post DER.Fuhrer.CN.

Very informative

DER.Fuhrer.CN · 02-01-2002, 10:55 AM

More of a sig test than anything

whats the code here for sig images?

blue · 02-01-2002, 10:55 AM

Wehr, very nice post!

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