[strvs]

[quote="Short Hand":9960d]

Originally Posted by strvs

Well judging by your vast knowledge of the english language and american politics, surely you have an intelligent bit to add to this arguement... rolleyes:

hall i spell check for your liking sir ?[/quote:9960d]
0 sense

[Short Hand]

sense of million ?

[newt.]

[quote="Short Hand":2ff9d][quote="newt.":2ff9d]Heres comes that

"one persons truth, is anothers lie." speech. oOo:[/quote:2ff9d]

............not really. hake:[/quote:2ff9d]

lies oOo:

[TGB!]

[quote="Infernal_":4d302]i completely agree with everything michael moore says in fahrenheit adn bowling for columbine, funny how fucked the american government is, adn thank god we have someone to tell is the truth so we arnt being played with and manupulated but......how do we know everything mike says is true aswell.......ah well too hard ot argue with the government too many crooked people and conspiracys.[/quote:4d302]

How does it feel being a sheep lead to the slaughter? If you believe everything in Bowling For Columbine and F9/11 we need to get you out of this country - NOW.

Few points:

Moore brings up the "Willie Horton" ad used by the Bush campaign in 88. The text reads "And Then He Kills Again" (Willie Horton was a released black convict). This is all fine and well - except the ad DOESNT say that. It says "And Then He Rapes A Woman". What is Moores explanation for this? "It's a typo." Thats a pretty big and GLARING typo.

Moore brings up Americas obsession with guns, and goes to Michigan, home of some fine militias. He opens a bank account that promises a "free gun". His last line in what seems like a 15 minute process is "Do you think we should be giving out guns like this". This is to the woman who takes him through the process. Had the film kept going you would have heard her response, which debunked the entire segment. They DONT just give out guns. Moore went through finger printing, a background check, and was there for over an hour. Not a brief amount of time as he would like you to believe. The woman was obviously furious at being portrayed as a backwards hick who just passed out guns. And the gun Moore triumphantly waves in the air? Its a replica. The real guns arent kept on the premises. Oh well. So much for journalistic integrity.

As for 9/11

Gore was never President. Sorry Moore but the general public and national media does NOT call the Presidential Election. The Senate does. And I am sorry that no member of Congress (which is made up of more than white people, although Moores exploitation of the "negros" would suggest that's not the case, that the all-white Senate didnt care about the lil ol blackies) appended their objection to the Election results but thats the way it goes. Numerous "recounts" were done, and using various methods, Gore or Bush would have won. Fucking deal with it.

The Bin Ladin flight. Clarke approved it. He's told three different stories, and his final version comes after he has removed himself from his post within the administration and is no longer under oath. He fully takes responsibility for flying the Bin Ladins out of the country, and the flight plan was reviewed by him, his department, and the FBI.

Moore interviews a few soldiers and thinks hes got a complete picture? Please. This forum alone proves that there are soldiers who are fighting with honor and loyalty. Im sorry that womans son died, but she does not honor his memory by using his death as a vindication of this administration.

There are more glaring exploitations of fact - including the Canadian kids in BFC who are supposed to be "experts" on American culture. . . rolleyes: So much so that they are able to skip skill and hang out at the local fast food joint. Ohhh Canada indeed.

[Maplegyver]

moore needs to do a porono, preferably paris hilton style

[Short Hand]

well someone has gotta take the fall for the Bin Laden flights out of America.

[TGB!]

[quote="Short Hand":f6928]well someone has gotta take the fall for the Bin Laden flights out of America.[/quote:f6928]

Youre a fucking idiot. What fucking fall? This is a family tailed by the FBI and CIA constantly. Not ONE whistleblower has stepped up to say "oh no they are involved in all this shit" - yet fucking lemmings are willing to let Moore spell it out for them. . ."the Bin Ladens are working for their son".

[Short Hand]

[quote="TGB!":e2361][quote="Short Hand":e2361]well someone has gotta take the fall for the Bin Laden flights out of America.[/quote:e2361]

Youre a fucking idiot. What fucking fall? This is a family tailed by the FBI and CIA constantly. Not ONE whistleblower has stepped up to say "oh no they are involved in all this shit" - yet fucking lemmings are willing to let Moore spell it out for them. . ."the Bin Ladens are working for their son".[/quote:e2361]

FBI, CIA, fucking jokes to the free world. If yiou hadn't notice their are a lot more lemmings under bush then Moore, Hell I would consider Moore followers on a higher level since they are thinking for themselves, if Mr Coleman here is any proof of conservatives here. Youre the fucking idiot for being so emoional and confrontational about these issues , simply destroy any arguement down to your barebone essential fact of either flaming the person to shit or some how finding a way to disregard them as some sort of bafoon or idiot, way I see it thats a dirty way to argue when the facts overwhelm you. bust out the cursing and bust out the your a fucking retard statements. Typical conservatism.

[Eames]

i was at the movies tonight and i was suprised at all of the people that were there to see moores movie, i couldnt believe they would pay 8 bucks to listen to a bunch of lies and slander for 90 minutes.

[Judas]

never seen his films and i would be interested to know why you hate him (noctis).

while flipping through one night before sleep I saw him in an interview on one of those cross talk type programs and was impressed by him. It seemed like to me that he truely enjoys making fun of shitty politicians/politics, not only in interviews, apparently, but also through film. And alot of the things he said i also think true.

Do i believe he is doing what he does to ONLY sell himself? No. And i salute him for using the media against itself.

[Short Hand]

Originally Posted by Eames

i was at the movies tonight and i was suprised at all of the people that were there to see moores movie, i couldnt believe they would pay 8 bucks to listen to a bunch of lies and slander for 90 minutes.

and your justification for this comment ? When the truth htis Americans people like you will hold onto your ignorance until the day you day, neverl etting America move on but kill it like an infectious tumor. The world realizes this yet you seem to hold on that your majority within America itself, (not the world) seems to be right. wake up. fucking troll.

[Pyro]

Originally Posted by Eames

i was at the movies tonight and i was suprised at all of the people that were there to see moores movie, i couldnt believe they would pay 8 bucks to listen to a bunch of lies and slander for 90 minutes.

Yet you can watch the State of the Union addresses sleeping:

[Eames]

[quote="Short Hand":62070]

Originally Posted by Eames

i was at the movies tonight and i was suprised at all of the people that were there to see moores movie, i couldnt believe they would pay 8 bucks to listen to a bunch of lies and slander for 90 minutes.

and your justification for this comment ? When the truth htis Americans people like you will hold onto your ignorance until the day you day, neverl etting America move on but kill it like an infectious tumor. The world realizes this yet you seem to hold on that your majority within America itself, (not the world) seems to be right. wake up. fucking troll.[/quote:62070]

what the fuck? please translate....your rambling.

[TGB!]

[quote="Short Hand":aaed8][quote="TGB!":aaed8][quote="Short Hand":aaed8]well someone has gotta take the fall for the Bin Laden flights out of America.[/quote:aaed8]

Youre a fucking idiot. What fucking fall? This is a family tailed by the FBI and CIA constantly. Not ONE whistleblower has stepped up to say "oh no they are involved in all this shit" - yet fucking lemmings are willing to let Moore spell it out for them. . ."the Bin Ladens are working for their son".[/quote:aaed8]

FBI, CIA, fucking jokes to the free world. If yiou hadn't notice their are a lot more lemmings under bush then Moore, Hell I would consider Moore followers on a higher level since they are thinking for themselves, if Mr Coleman here is any proof of conservatives here. Youre the fucking idiot for being so emoional and confrontational about these issues , simply destroy any arguement down to your barebone essential fact of either flaming the person to shit or some how finding a way to disregard them as some sort of bafoon or idiot, way I see it thats a dirty way to argue when the facts overwhelm you. bust out the cursing and bust out the your a fucking retard statements. Typical conservatism.[/quote:aaed8]

Please give me the facts muscle head. I just listed off several slippery video editing and lies, and you pass by them. You are exactly the audience Moore is appealing to - lemmings who are so fevered to accept crit of Bush trhat theyll but into any message. Good for you.

Do some fucking research. Muscleheaded Canadian idiot.

[Judas]

Originally Posted by tgb

muscle head

LOL!


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