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U.S. troops 'burnt Taliban bodies' -
10-20-2005, 11:31 AM
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http://smh.com.au/news/world/film-rolls ... 56154.html
[quote:9a6d7]US soldiers in Afghanistan burnt the bodies of dead Taliban and taunted their opponents about the corpses, in an act deeply offensive to Muslims and in breach of the Geneva conventions.[/quote:9a6d7]
[quote:9a6d7]US soldiers said they burnt the bodies for hygiene reasons but two reporters, Stephen Dupont and John Martinkus, said the explanation was unbelievable, given they were in an isolated area.[/quote:9a6d7]
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/asiapcf/1 ... index.html
[quote:9a6d7]In a statement issued Thursday from the Afghan capital Kabul, U.S. Maj. Gen. Jason Kamiya, Combined Joint Task Force-76 Commander, said: "This command takes all allegations of misconduct or inappropriate behavior seriously and has directed an investigation into circumstances surrounding this allegation.
"This command does not condone the mistreatment of enemy combatants or the desecration of their religious and cultural beliefs," he said.
"This alleged action is repugnant to our common values, is contrary to our command's approved tactical operating procedures, and is not sanctioned by this command.
"Our efforts to thoroughly investigate this allegation are a reflection of our commitment to the government of Afghanistan and the Afghan people."
If the allegations are substantiated, Kamiya said, "the appropriate course of action ... and corrective action will be taken."[/quote:9a6d7]
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10-20-2005, 01:11 PM
you gotta stay warm somehow
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10-20-2005, 01:45 PM
Real classy. rolleyes:
[img]http://home.europa.com/%7Emaevsec/magpie/burning_taliban3_small.jpg[/img]
[quote:c29da]The Australian news program Dateline has aired video of US soldiers burning the bodies of Taliban dead, with the bodies facing Mecca. Such an action is deeply offensive to Muslims, who believe that a body must be buried within 24 hours of death.[/quote:c29da]
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10-20-2005, 02:04 PM
What a disgrace.
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10-20-2005, 03:49 PM
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10-20-2005, 04:01 PM
I highly doubt its true but then again if its in the news it MUST be
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10-20-2005, 04:03 PM
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What a disgrace.
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10-20-2005, 04:59 PM
[quote="Sgt>Stackem":95bf5]I highly doubt its true but then again if its in the news it MUST be[/quote:95bf5]
Just like those two British SAS members wern't trying to detonate a car bomb in Iraq, and the two Americans caught doing the same thing only a couple weeks ago, right?
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10-20-2005, 05:13 PM
[quote="Sgt>Stackem":ac676]I highly doubt its true [/quote:ac676]
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10-20-2005, 05:20 PM
Who gives a fuck....it's war.
Thats one thing i could never really understand.....rules of war. You're out there to win...fuck the rules! American journalism tries to make us out to be some kind of saviour......it's all bullshit. Give me weapons and set me free in Iraq and i'll do whatever it takes to win and come home alive. Rules? fuck you...i'm in it to win no matter what. Same applies to street fighting. Don't expect me not to gouge out your eye balls and kick you in the throat!
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10-20-2005, 05:43 PM
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10-20-2005, 09:48 PM
This discussion makes me long for the good old days before the country became emasculated.
[drifts into reminiscent haze]
....."Sure, we want to go home. We want this war over with. The quickest way to get it over with is to go get the bastards who started it. The quicker they are whipped, the quicker we can go home. The shortest way home is through Berlin and Tokyo. And when we get to Berlin", he yelled, "I am personally going to shoot that paper hanging son-of-a-bitch Hitler. Just like I'd shoot a snake!"
"When a man is lying in a shell hole, if he just stays there all day, a German will get to him eventually. The hell with that idea. The hell with taking it. My men don't dig foxholes. I don't want them to. Foxholes only slow up an offensive. Keep moving. And don't give the enemy time to dig one either. We'll win this war, but we'll win it only by fighting and by showing the Germans that we've got more guts than they have; or ever will have. We're not going to just shoot the sons-of-bitches, we're going to rip out their living Goddamned guts and use them to grease the treads of our tanks. We're going to murder those lousy Hun cocksuckers by the bushel-fucking-basket. War is a bloody, killing business. You've got to spill their blood, or they will spill yours. Rip them up the belly. Shoot them in the guts. When shells are hitting all around you and you wipe the dirt off your face and realize that instead of dirt it's the blood and guts of what once was your best friend beside you, you'll know what to do!"
"I don't want to get any messages saying, "I am holding my position." We are not holding a Goddamned thing. Let the Germans do that. We are advancing constantly and we are not interested in holding onto anything, except the enemy's balls. We are going to twist his balls and kick the living shit out of him all of the time. Our basic plan of operation is to advance and to keep on advancing regardless of whether we have to go over, under, or through the enemy. We are going to go through him like crap through a goose; like shit through a tin horn!"
"From time to time there will be some complaints that we are pushing our people too hard. I don't give a good Goddamn about such complaints. I believe in the old and sound rule that an ounce of sweat will save a gallon of blood. The harder WE push, the more Germans we will kill. The more Germans we kill, the fewer of our men will be killed. Pushing means fewer casualties. I want you all to remember that.
There is one great thing that you men will all be able to say after this war is over and you are home once again. You may be thankful that twenty years from now when you are sitting by the fireplace with your grandson on your knee and he asks you what you did in the great World War II, you WON'T have to cough, shift him to the other knee and say, "Well, your Granddaddy shoveled shit in Louisiana." No, Sir, you can look him straight in the eye and say, "Son, your Granddaddy rode with the Great Third Army and a Son-of-a-Goddamned-Bitch named Georgie Patton!"
[/wakes up and realizes we can't say "We're going to murder those lousy Hun cocksuckers by the bushel-fucking-basket" anymore without hurting somebody's feelings]
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10-21-2005, 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Colonel
This discussion makes me long for the good old days before the country became emasculated.
[drifts into reminiscent haze]
....."Sure, we want to go home. We want this war over with. The quickest way to get it over with is to go get the bastards who started it. The quicker they are whipped, the quicker we can go home. The shortest way home is through Berlin and Tokyo. And when we get to Berlin", he yelled, "I am personally going to shoot that paper hanging son-of-a-bitch Hitler. Just like I'd shoot a snake!"
"When a man is lying in a shell hole, if he just stays there all day, a German will get to him eventually. The hell with that idea. The hell with taking it. My men don't dig foxholes. I don't want them to. Foxholes only slow up an offensive. Keep moving. And don't give the enemy time to dig one either. We'll win this war, but we'll win it only by fighting and by showing the Germans that we've got more guts than they have; or ever will have. We're not going to just shoot the sons-of-bitches, we're going to rip out their living Goddamned guts and use them to grease the treads of our tanks. We're going to murder those lousy Hun cocksuckers by the bushel-fucking-basket. War is a bloody, killing business. You've got to spill their blood, or they will spill yours. Rip them up the belly. Shoot them in the guts. When shells are hitting all around you and you wipe the dirt off your face and realize that instead of dirt it's the blood and guts of what once was your best friend beside you, you'll know what to do!"
"I don't want to get any messages saying, "I am holding my position." We are not holding a Goddamned thing. Let the Germans do that. We are advancing constantly and we are not interested in holding onto anything, except the enemy's balls. We are going to twist his balls and kick the living shit out of him all of the time. Our basic plan of operation is to advance and to keep on advancing regardless of whether we have to go over, under, or through the enemy. We are going to go through him like crap through a goose; like shit through a tin horn!"
"From time to time there will be some complaints that we are pushing our people too hard. I don't give a good Goddamn about such complaints. I believe in the old and sound rule that an ounce of sweat will save a gallon of blood. The harder WE push, the more Germans we will kill. The more Germans we kill, the fewer of our men will be killed. Pushing means fewer casualties. I want you all to remember that.
There is one great thing that you men will all be able to say after this war is over and you are home once again. You may be thankful that twenty years from now when you are sitting by the fireplace with your grandson on your knee and he asks you what you did in the great World War II, you WON'T have to cough, shift him to the other knee and say, "Well, your Granddaddy shoveled shit in Louisiana." No, Sir, you can look him straight in the eye and say, "Son, your Granddaddy rode with the Great Third Army and a Son-of-a-Goddamned-Bitch named Georgie Patton!"
[/wakes up and realizes we can't say "We're going to murder those lousy Hun cocksuckers by the bushel-fucking-basket" anymore without hurting somebody's feelings]
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When did Afgahnistan/Iraq take over a whole continent? I must of missed that.
Whether or not you support either war, you can't compare WW2 to either war. That's just fucking retarded.
Makes me sick when people make the comparison.
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10-21-2005, 06:14 AM
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Whether or not you support either war, you can't compare WW2 to either war. That's just fucking retarded.
Makes me sick when people make the comparison.
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Actually I was makng the comparison to our attitudes towards what it takes to win a war, and a comparison, to what I preceive anyway, is a lack of backbone in today's society. In my opinion we have become a country that suffers from ADD (one of the excuses we like to use with our youth). We can't finish anything that we start. In addition, we have become a country so concerned about being politically correct that we don't have the balls to do what it takes to win.
Most of the guys in this forum laughed at a story that was posted a while back about Gen Pershing killing Muslim terrorists and burying them with pig entrails (which never happened, btw). If this recent story really happened, why is it any different? Is it because we have pictures to relate to? Or maybe we just don't want to hurt anybody's feelings. You can argue about Iraq being an unjust war all you want. This happened in Afghanistan. I'm pretty sure that most of the guys in this forum agreed we had the right to go after Bin Laden and his bunch, who were in Afghanistan.
BTW - getting my head chopped off is against my religion. Do you think the terrorists are going to respect that belief when they capture me?
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10-21-2005, 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Colonel
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Originally Posted by Tripper
Actually I was makng the comparison to our attitudes towards what it takes to win a war, and a comparison, to what I preceive anyway, is a lack of backbone in today's society. In my opinion we have become a country that suffers from ADD (one of the excuses we like to use with our youth). We can't finish anything that we start. In addition, we have become a country so concerned about being politically correct that we don't have the balls to do what it takes to win.
Most of the guys in this forum laughed at a story that was posted a while back about Gen Pershing killing Muslim terrorists and burying them with pig entrails (which never happened, btw). If this recent story really happened, why is it any different? Is it because we have pictures to relate to? Or maybe we just don't want to hurt anybody's feelings. You can argue about Iraq being an unjust war all you want. This happened in Afghanistan. I'm pretty sure that most of the guys in this forum agreed we had the right to go after Bin Laden and his bunch, who were in Afghanistan.
BTW - getting my head chopped off is against my religion. Do you think the terrorists are going to respect that belief when they capture me?
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