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Stuff like this is why the "religious right" is so -
11-16-2005, 04:04 PM
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6578096/
[quote:63f27]Among the materials she has rejected, according to Williams, are excerpts from the Declaration of Independence, George Washington's journal, John Adams' diary, Samuel Adams' "The Rights of the Colonists" and William Penn's "The Frame of Government of Pennsylvania."[/quote:63f27]
I'm gonna assume that this guy was trying to push an agenda in the classroom and that is probably why the principal started cracking down on him ... but if she was denying these documents solely because they referred to God etc. then the People's Republic of California is further gone than I thought.
And like I said, these are the kind of stories that make religious people think that the pendulem has swung too far and it's time to make a stand. IMHO that's why you see the big backlash.
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11-16-2005, 04:07 PM
only in cali...only in cali
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11-16-2005, 04:12 PM
the futher we stray from christianity the better.
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11-16-2005, 04:13 PM
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the futher we stray from christianity the better.
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so lets reprint/pound all of our currency. Sounds like a fantastic plan ed: rolleyes:
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11-16-2005, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Coleman
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Originally Posted by Pyro
the futher we stray from christianity the better.
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so lets reprint/pound all of our currency. Sounds like a fantastic plan ed: rolleyes:
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Meh...lets just consider in god we trust as words...just words...who gives a shit if it is still on...doens't mean we have to attribute meaning to it.
the Cold War only happened because WE are assholes and think nothing is allowed except our way...who gives a shit if russia is communist and atheist...they never aspired to own the west...who cares if the east is communist.
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11-16-2005, 04:33 PM
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...who gives a shit if russia is communist and atheist...they never aspired to own the west
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Tell that to the Cubans.
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11-16-2005, 04:38 PM
lmao what a joke
It's a history book, of course God is going to be mentioned. Now maybe if it was a science book or a math book and it was saying god invented numbers then fine, but banning the use of the declaration of independence because it references god is asinine and ignorant.
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11-16-2005, 04:55 PM
BIASED PIG GOATS!!!!!! cuss: cuss: cuss: plzdie:
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11-16-2005, 06:13 PM
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the Cold War only happened because WE are assholes and think nothing is allowed except our way...who gives a shit if russia is communist and atheist...they never aspired to own the west...who cares if the east is communist.
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I guess that your forgetting Khrushchev at the United Nations, pounding his shoe on the table and yelling "We will bury you!" Or the closing of Berlin and Eastern Europe Or the internment of 20,000 Allied servicemen at the end of WW2
I really could care less about what religious belief you choose to, or not to practice, so why in FSM's name do you insist on shoving atheism down my throat
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11-16-2005, 06:57 PM
Bullshit, it's fucking history, nothing wrong with that, God/Belief is part of human history, c'mon now oOo: spank:
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11-16-2005, 07:01 PM
Pyro, you're as bad as the ultra-conservative christians - Do you not see that? Are you fucking retarded?
You act exactly the same, as if your opinion is superior. Everyone thinks you should just shut the fuck up if you're not going to contribute properly. You just state stupid shit and then when you're proven wrong you ignore it and make some other stupid point....and around and round we go.
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11-16-2005, 07:03 PM
1) History is the study of factual events. God/religion should be allowed to be mentioned, for example, as a leading cause for the crusades, but i see no reason to take it further than that.
2) happy: Yea...Krushev pounding his shoe, all the russians laugh about it now lol... But yea, I have to agree with JJ, it wasnt just America's fault that the cold war occured, the blame should be distributed evenly amongst USSR and the USA.
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11-16-2005, 11:16 PM
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Pyro, you're as bad as the ultra-conservative christians - Do you not see that? Are you fucking retarded?
You act exactly the same, as if your opinion is superior. Everyone thinks you should just shut the fuck up if you're not going to contribute properly. You just state stupid shit and then when you're proven wrong you ignore it and make some other stupid point....and around and round we go.
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cha-ching...right on the money.
it's really quite funny how blindly hypocritical someone can be
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11-17-2005, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Coleman
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the futher we stray from christianity the better.
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so lets reprint/pound all of our currency. Sounds like a fantastic plan ed: rolleyes:
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Meh...lets just consider in god we trust as words...just words...who gives a shit if it is still on...doens't mean we have to attribute meaning to it.
the Cold War only happened because WE are assholes and think nothing is allowed except our way...who gives a shit if russia is communist and atheist...they never aspired to own the west...who cares if the east is communist.
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OMG Exactly they are just words … There wouldn’t be problems if people treated that as just words, if you do not want to believe, than don’t … Excuse the majority of the country for believing in a higher power, if you don’t want to just ignore it, like most people ignore collection calls.
It is already part of our history; we shouldn’t just change it to provide comfort for people that in the last 10 yrs had nothing better to do than complaint.
-And the Communism thing is applied to the movement that aims to overthrow the capitalist order by revolutionary means and to establish a classless society in which all goods will be socially owned. So, basically you are screwed as a citizen of the nation.
Plus isn’t Communism only sustainable if the nation is constantly at war? I’m not sure, that’s really a question. Cause than it would lead to a totalitarian society and everything goes downhill from there.
I might be wrong, but I thought we are only helping other nations and yes ourselves by helping them adapt to the times, and providing them with a Capitalistic government.
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11-17-2005, 09:53 AM
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lmao what a joke
It's a history book, of course God is going to be mentioned. Now maybe if it was a science book or a math book and it was saying god invented numbers then fine, but banning the use of the declaration of independence because it references god is asinine and ignorant.
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well said
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