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				05-15-2006, 03:27 PM
			
			
			
		  
		
	
                
            	
		
		
		
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				Im in the middle of reading it right now, its pretty damn good. 
			
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 I stayed up from 1:30am till 10:00am reading! 
I'm on chapter 80. this is such a good novel!!!  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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				Most of the things Brown states are based on facts.  And he draws conclusions based on those facts.  And in the very beggining of the book, Brown ackowledges that the story is fictional, but the facts presented are true, for the most part. 
 
All these scholars debunking Brown, are wasting their time.  None of us were alive 2000 years ago, so none of us knows, and will never know, the truth.  The church is just upset because Brown lets people know little known facts which the church doesn't like.  Once the church starts fessing up to all the times its f-cked up in history, then maybe ill actually listen to what they have to say.  till then. 
			
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 Examples of so called facts plz.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				05-16-2006, 02:22 AM
			
			
			
		  
		
	
                
            	
		
		
		I thought the book was 'eh'. Writing wasnt that great, it held my attention to the end, tho. I'll see the movie. 
 
ANd FFS PALPATINE, ITS JUST A MOVIE!!  oOo: 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		good book, you guys should definatly read Angels and Demons and Deception Point.. other good books by Dan Brown. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				Most of the things Brown states are based on facts.  And he draws conclusions based on those facts.  And in the very beggining of the book, Brown ackowledges that the story is fictional, but the facts presented are true, for the most part. 
 
All these scholars debunking Brown, are wasting their time.  None of us were alive 2000 years ago, so none of us knows, and will never know, the truth.  The church is just upset because Brown lets people know little known facts which the church doesn't like.  Once the church starts fessing up to all the times its f-cked up in history, then maybe ill actually listen to what they have to say.  till then. 
			
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 Examples of so called facts plz.  
			
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 my copy of the da vinci code is being borrowed my somebody who wants to read it before seeing the movie friday.  Ill have it back by fri night, and ill be happy to pm you some of the facts, along with page numbers from the book, and sources that support the facts, etc.  If youd like a list of Church fuck ups too, just know itll take me a while to type em all up...
 
Zap, how is deception point?  i heard it was one of Brown's worser novels.  I wanted to get it, but after reading some reviews of it, I'm not so sure.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		I mean maybe it's because I'm a atheist that the claims are outrageous, to me. 60 minutes ran a piece 2 weeks ago and they proved one of the da vinci codes theory, wrong. It was about that church in france or where ever and the preist suddenly got a shitload of money. Turns out the guy who created the story had mental problems. I forget the rest of the story but it was pretty much debunked. Like I said maybe it's just because I'm a atheist. All these conspiracy theories on religion that are coming out are pretty laughable. We all want to believe that jesus has a blood line because people like hearing that stuff. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				I thought the book was 'eh'. Writing wasnt that great, it held my attention to the end, tho. I'll see the movie. 
 
ANd FFS PALPATINE, ITS JUST A MOVIE!!  oOo: 
			
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 wtf? 
Who the fuck are you? Your opinion is false.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		I haven't read the novel, but I know that at the core is the notion that Mary Magdalene had children with Jesus. There is no evidence to suggest that and people have debunked it many times over. 
 
And Machette, you're exactly right, people want to believe this stuff so badly, and that's part of why this is such a big deal. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				I haven't read the novel, but I know that at the core is the notion that Mary Magdalene had children with Jesus. There is no evidence to suggest that and people have debunked it many times over. 
			
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 Honestly, you should.  If anything, its a good read.  Doesn't mean you have to take it seriously.  I'm a taoist, I still read books on religion, etc.  True there is little to no evidence, most of what Brown has is speculation.  But he makes interesting points.  And a lot of it doesn't even have to do with Mary, I mean thats the main idea behind the book but Brown fills it up with so many other facts/ideas too.
 
And if anything, its the fact that people don't want to believe it, so badly.  I mean seriously.  Think about it.  Priests aren't allowed to marry/engage in sexual intercourse, but the human incarnate of god himself is?  If it were proven true, it could shatter people's belief in the teachings of their religion. 
Which is why, people don't liek to think about it.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		No, but the thing on the other side is that a lot of the readers are atheists thinking it will disprove Christianity, those are the people who want it to be true, and those are the people who are taking it as fact. (a lot of them at least) 
 
ANd yes, I did hear it is a very good book. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		Guess I'm the only one who didn't like it. Dull characters..bad dialogue. And I don't mind thrillers. The stuff by frederick forsyth is great - the jackal, odessa files. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		i thought da vinci code and angels & demons were good books, but the author kills the ending in both books 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				Guess I'm the only one who didn't like it. Dull characters..bad dialogue. And I don't mind thrillers. The stuff by frederick forsyth is great - the jackal, odessa files. 
			
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 I didnt like it either. But apparently my Opine is "false"  rolleyes:  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		Intresting story, (intrique and such) bad litrature period. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		Man you guys are hard to please. 
Nothing but Dickens and Shakespear will do for you 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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