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Catching Osoma bin Ladin -
11-09-2005, 05:19 PM
Would catching Osoma bin Ladin hurt America?
It could go both ways, alot of people would be happy but it could cause more terror attacks.
I was thinking about this at work today, im not sure if catching him would be a good thing, but with him out there is a bad thing too.
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11-09-2005, 05:24 PM
First of all OSAMA is the leader of this whole thing. We catch him - a few more terrorist attacks happened - they settle down after. It might hurt us at first, but in the long run, catching him would be better for the economy.
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11-09-2005, 05:29 PM
We started the war to catch him, it would probably hurt us more if we dont catch him. For example.
Saw we withdrew our forces out of both iraq and afghanistan having given up finding obl, other terrorist groups could think we are soft and that we wont follow through with the catching of terrorists damaging the USA. Which could lead to more attacks from other groups.
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11-09-2005, 07:05 PM
Has anyone considered the possibility that OBL is already dead?
What does it matter if one person dies? If he dies, does that mean terrorism as it has been shown to us will be stopped?
What if he never existed in the first place? Is he really required to to run a terrorist organization? Is there even an organized group of terrorists?
Who benefits from OBL being alive?
How does OBL benifit from any of this? Is he making money? Does he just enjoy killing people?
Is it true the the US needs OBL more than OBL needs the US?
If OBL doesn't exist, has the US won? Is the war on terrorism over?
If OBL doesn't exist, do the citizens of the US and other countries feel their work is done?
Does the US needs terrorism? Does there need to be an enemy to fight?
Does terrorism need a face, ala Saddam, Bin Laden, al zarqawi, kim jon il?
Is it easier to justify with a figurehead or essentially a main goal to accomplish or capture?
What if al zarqawi is dead? What impact does this have?
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11-09-2005, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by duncey
First of all OSAMA is the leader of this whole thing. We catch him - a few more terrorist attacks happened - they settle down after. It might hurt us at first, but in the long run, catching him would be better for the economy.
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Islamic terrorism has become an ideal. You cannot kill of an ideal simply by cutting off its head, because it will sprout 10 more, each as sinister and evil as the first. And if we capture him and sentence him to death, we will be making him a martyr, which will enrage so many muslims you cant even begin to imagine.
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11-09-2005, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Trunks
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Originally Posted by duncey
First of all OSAMA is the leader of this whole thing. We catch him - a few more terrorist attacks happened - they settle down after. It might hurt us at first, but in the long run, catching him would be better for the economy.
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Islamic terrorism has become an ideal. You cannot kill of an ideal simply by cutting off its head, because it will sprout 10 more, each as sinister and evil as the first. And if we capture him and sentence him to death, we will be making him a martyr, which will enrage so many muslims you cant even begin to imagine.
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Damn, you sound like a pussy. If you're convinced that he is behind 9/11, then you absolutely do whatever is within your power to bring him to justice. If justice means putting him to death, then so be it. If you sit back and weigh the consequences (potential increase in terrorism) of doing what is right, then you've given in to terrorism.
BTW, radical muslims don't need OBL to be martyred to hate Americans and westerners. They learn that before they learn to walk.
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11-10-2005, 07:08 AM
Id like to see his nuts on Ebay!
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11-10-2005, 10:54 AM
Osama is the poster boy...hes the actor is the advertisments for the terrorists...Catching him would make the people happy, but it would piss off the actual threats behind the entire thing.
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11-10-2005, 10:58 AM
I thought he was caught and was being tortured/molested/peed/questioned - yes in that order, at a secret location in Russia.
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11-10-2005, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by tomxtr
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Originally Posted by Trunks
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Originally Posted by duncey
First of all OSAMA is the leader of this whole thing. We catch him - a few more terrorist attacks happened - they settle down after. It might hurt us at first, but in the long run, catching him would be better for the economy.
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Islamic terrorism has become an ideal. You cannot kill of an ideal simply by cutting off its head, because it will sprout 10 more, each as sinister and evil as the first. And if we capture him and sentence him to death, we will be making him a martyr, which will enrage so many muslims you cant even begin to imagine.
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Damn, you sound like a pussy. If you're convinced that he is behind 9/11, then you absolutely do whatever is within your power to bring him to justice. If justice means putting him to death, then so be it. If you sit back and weigh the consequences (potential increase in terrorism) of doing what is right, then you've given in to terrorism.
BTW, radical muslims don't need OBL to be martyred to hate Americans and westerners. They learn that before they learn to walk.
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I dont want to get into a needless flame war, so I will choose to ignore the, "you sound like a pussy" bit. There is a difference between doing what is right, and doing wat is smart. A wise person will know when to do the right thing, and when to do the smart thing. And I will tell you this. By killing Osama Bin Laden, we will be giving them yet another reason to fight us. Dont you see, by making him a martyr we are making him a hero to all islamic extremists! I say, if we even capture him, make him tell us what we need to know about al-quaida, etc, but killing him would be pointless. Take a look at Father Miguel Hidalgo during the mexican revolution against the spanish. He led a peaceful revolt, was captured and KILLED by the spanish, and this gave the mexican people yet another reason to fight the spanish. It gave them a hero to strive to be like. Circumstances are very different, but Im sure its not too hard to see some of the likliness between the two events.
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11-10-2005, 06:12 PM
he'll die of liver or kidney failure before he is caught by anyone, if he hasnt already
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11-10-2005, 08:21 PM
Hopefully it would be the proverbial cutting the head off the snake, but you just don't know
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11-10-2005, 10:16 PM
I smell... *sniff* H-Bomb, BITCHES.
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11-10-2005, 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by duncey
First of all OSAMA is the leader of this whole thing. We catch him - a few more terrorist attacks happened - they settle down after. It might hurt us at first, but in the long run, catching him would be better for the economy.
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Catching Osama will be better for the economy? Fuck man, catching Osama wont stop anything...except bush's approval rating from going down.
Wheres your head at?
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11-15-2005, 08:03 PM
I don't know a shitload about osama, but i heard most muslims don't view him as a real bad person. so it could badfire if we caught him and whatever.
but really I think we should remove his eyelids, cut off his head, burn his head, piss on his corpse, and bury him, upside down, in an unmarked grave
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