Extra Armor Could Have Saved Many Lives, Study Shows

Stammer · **Extra Armor Could Have Saved Many Lives, Study Shows -** 01-06-2006, 11:23 PM

[url=http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/06/politics/06cnd-armor.html?ex=1294203600&en=b13c10bd70ee9190&ei=50 88&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss:681ee]Link to Article[/url:681ee]

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Coleman · 01-06-2006, 11:38 PM

...and you think the government doesn't want these kids to live and are purposely holding back armor supplies? I think it'd be a lot cheaper if the military just gave more armor than to take the increasing pressure of the rising death list.

Stammer · 01-06-2006, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Coleman

...and you think the government doesn't want these kids to live and are purposely holding back armor supplies? I think it'd be a lot cheaper if the military just gave more armor than to take the increasing pressure of the rising death list.

Wouldn't surprise me but I doubt they are stupid enough to purposely hold back supplies.

c312 · 01-07-2006, 03:04 AM

it's not about withholding supplies, it's about the product not working effectively. The article is saying that the armor isn't good enough because it doesn't cover some parts of the torso.

Madmartagen · 01-07-2006, 05:18 AM

i think it has more to do with the military not being fully prepared or underestimating the resistance they would face in iraq. i dont think they are ready to own up to it and even though it seems reasonable to just issue more armor to all our troops, getting equiptment that wasnt prepared takes a long time. its just like at work. you see something broken and you tell your manager. nothing gets done until someone loses a finger or something. even then sometimes it doesnt help.

c312 · 01-07-2006, 12:34 PM

They have armor, the article is saying the design of it is just not good enough.

TK-423 · 01-07-2006, 01:48 PM

The fact that some people actually believe the US goverment witholds supplies from troops purposely to get them killed is rediculous.

01-08-2006, 11:14 PM

[quote="TK-423":27ca2]The fact that some people actually believe the US goverment witholds supplies from troops purposely to get them killed is rediculous.[/quote:27ca2]

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD IT IS SPELLED RIDICULOUS!

and yeah, it is pretty silly to think that the government wants to fail in iraq.

Sgt>Stackem · 01-09-2006, 01:03 PM

its a good thing Clinton didnt cut back on military spending so the next guy wouldnt inherate this problem ............................................... oh wait..................................

Pyro · 01-09-2006, 01:24 PM

[quote="Sgt>Stackem":e4b11]its a good thing Clinton didnt cut back on military spending so the next guy wouldnt inherate this problem ............................................... oh wait..................................[/quote:e4b11]

well with clinton you wouldn't need the armor for iraq...as he wouldn't of been stupid enough to attack them.

Stammer · 01-09-2006, 02:19 PM

[quote="Sgt>Stackem":ee7e1]its a good thing Clinton didnt cut back on military spending so the next guy wouldnt inherate this problem ............................................... oh wait..................................[/quote:ee7e1]

Give me a break...The Republicans cut military pay earlier in Bush's presidency. And most of the money in the defense budget goes towards technology not the actual solider.

PS: When Bush cut taxes he's pretty much cutting Military pay since taxes are what the soldiers are payed with.

Sgt>Stackem · 01-09-2006, 02:24 PM

[quote=Stammer]

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Originally Posted by "Sgt>Stackem":3833a

its a good thing Clinton didnt cut back on military spending so the next guy wouldnt inherate this problem ............................................... oh wait..................................

Give me a break...The Republicans cut military pay earlier in Bush's presidency. And most of the money in the defense budget goes towards technology not the actual solider.

PS: When Bush cut taxes he's pretty much cutting Military pay since taxes are what the soldiers are payed with.[/quote:3833a]

nope, no break. Clinton did more damage to the military than anyone else I can think of. President Bush has been playing catchup ever since

PS Pyro.... he was too big a pussy to do anything except get blow jobs in the Oral Office

Pyro · 01-09-2006, 02:26 PM

[quote="Sgt>Stackem":d6dcf][quote=Stammer]

Quote:

Originally Posted by "Sgt>Stackem":d6dcf

its a good thing Clinton didnt cut back on military spending so the next guy wouldnt inherate this problem ............................................... oh wait..................................

Give me a break...The Republicans cut military pay earlier in Bush's presidency. And most of the money in the defense budget goes towards technology not the actual solider.

PS: When Bush cut taxes he's pretty much cutting Military pay since taxes are what the soldiers are payed with.[/quote:d6dcf]

nope, no break. Clinton did more damage to the military than anyone else I can think of. President Bush has been playing catchup ever since

PS Pyro.... he was too big a pussy to do anything except get blow jobs in the Oral Office[/quote:d6dcf]

I woulnd't turn down a blowjob...especially from that hottie monica rolleyes:

Stammer · 01-09-2006, 02:32 PM

[quote="Sgt>Stackem":806c0][quote=Stammer]

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Originally Posted by "Sgt>Stackem":806c0

its a good thing Clinton didnt cut back on military spending so the next guy wouldnt inherate this problem ............................................... oh wait..................................

Give me a break...The Republicans cut military pay earlier in Bush's presidency. And most of the money in the defense budget goes towards technology not the actual solider.

PS: When Bush cut taxes he's pretty much cutting Military pay since taxes are what the soldiers are payed with.[/quote:806c0]

nope, no break. Clinton did more damage to the military than anyone else I can think of. President Bush has been playing catchup ever since

PS Pyro.... he was too big a pussy to do anything except get blow jobs in the Oral Office[/quote:806c0]

How did he damage the military?

Yes Clinton was a huge pussy...I forgot creating a 5 trillion surplus and having a booming economy is for pencil pushing faggots, real men bomb sovereign nations by lying to their people and then going in with fledgling alliances with nations who's people don't even want to be there. Lets not forget it also takes real men to take bribes and rip people off with the help of scumbag lobbyists. Yes these last six years have been fucking peachy, yet Clinton's 8 years some how were like a mini-rapture, GOD FORBID HE GET HEAD IN THE WHITHOUSE LETS WASTE 2 YEARS OF HIS PRESIDENCY WITH THIS BULLSHIT! You call Liberals pussies look who cries over somthing thats none of your business.

Oh and Stackem how has Bush played catch up? Killing 2000 American soldiers isn't much of a catch up.

Sgt>Stackem · 01-09-2006, 02:49 PM

to equate the death toll to getting our military back to where it should be is stupid

PS Clinton did all that? I thought he walked into it